Bridged vs unbridged mode?

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tom34
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 20:27    Post subject: Bridged vs unbridged mode? Reply with quote
hi,

what is the difference between running the router in Bridged vs unbridged mode?
I'm using my router to connect to the internet and it is set to 'bridged'. WHat does that mean? The help file doesn't cover this topic.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 21:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
What screen do you see this on ?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
GeeTek wrote:
What screen do you see this on ?

It's under Wireless -> Basic Settings (Network Configuration)
and I made a mistake. It is set to "bridged" and not unbridged.
Wireless Mode = AP

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
tom34 wrote:
It's under Wireless -> Basic Settings (Network Configuration)
and I made a mistake. It is set to "bridged" and not unbridged.
Wireless Mode = AP
I cannot seem to find what you refer to. Sorry ! All I can offer is general advice. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you are curious, try different options to see if anything changes. If all else fails, try Google.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think he is referring to this


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tom34
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
@ Mastec

that's right. Thanks for uploading the screenshot Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 16:30    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does the help file say anything about what this bridge applies to ? The wireless radio would seem to be one half of the bridge since it is in the wireless section. Is the other half the LAN ports, the WAN port, Vlan port or virtual SSID channel ? Maybe it is AP isolation that would keep wireless clients from seeing each other ? Even if I flashed 24 to see, there are so many possabilites that I might not ever figure it out. Good question. I hope that somebody gives the answer.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 17:32    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is suposedly for bridging two different subnets, but as you say, there is no documentation on it...

Without any documentation at all on these types of things, they are basically useless.. I don't see how the function could be written without understanding it.. To release a function without a description is a waste of everybody's time, including the person who wrote the code..

No-one knows how to use it, so why have it there?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 18:51    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm glad that I'm not the only one. I agree, it would be nice if there was proper documentation for all the functions. I know, it's is beta, so maybe once it hits gold. But then again, how are we supposed to test it, if we don't know what it is supposed to be doing?

Well, maybe someone knows what it does Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 20:51    Post subject: Reply with quote
anyone?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am pretty sure it means that it bridges the WLAN and the LAN in interface br0

Which means that the WLAN is just like another port on the LAN....

Need examples? Here you go! :

Your LAN (wired ports 1-4 ) are setup to give addresses via DHCP ( automatic adressing ) in the range of 192.168.1.x. Let's say 192.168.1.100 thought 192.168.1.150 ( default ). Bridging means that the wireless ports are also part of this network, and will also recieve addresses in this range.

Now, if you choose 'Unbridged', then you get the option to give your wireless network a different subnet than your wired one. Which is why it then asks you for subnet addresses and masks ( I THINK this is required when using certain hotspot services, but that's a conversation for another time. ).

For most basic use, it will be best to have it in 'bridged' mode, as you have one local network sharing a pool or addresses and all attempting to go the same place. The unbridged option is for more advanced use and services ( like trying to keep your WiFI users from sniffing around your back office PCs that are wired, etc. )

I hope this clears things up for some of you, although I'll be willing to bet it confuses more than it helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:31    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Bridging is for WLAN to LAN.

Disabling the bridge puts the WLAN on a separate VLAN. So WLAN computers won't see the Wireed computers. It does not put it on a separate subnet, more like put it in a separate VLAN.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
LiFE1688 wrote:
The Bridging is for WLAN to LAN.

Disabling the bridge puts the WLAN on a separate VLAN. So WLAN computers won't see the Wireed computers. It does not put it on a separate subnet, more like put it in a separate VLAN.
I tried turning off the bridge on my AP to see this effect and it did not work. My WLAN computer could still see a LAN computer. Also, when I disabled the bridge, two new fields appeared under the Wireless Physical Interface - IP Address and Subnet Mask. What should I put in these? I had left them at zeroes.
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