Netgear WNDR3800 - New N600

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bytes2000
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 0:54    Post subject: Netgear WNDR3800 - New N600 Reply with quote


Netgear has developed a new version of the N600 router however I dont know if it has Atheros chipset, it is called: N600 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router—Premium Edition (WNDR3800)

Specs:
680 MHz powerful MIPS 32-bit processor
Memory: 16 MB flash and 64 MB RAM
Five (5) (1 WAN, 4 LAN) Gigabit Ethernet ports
Advanced Quality of Service (QoS)
Supports Wireless Multimedia (WMM) based QoS

Standards:
IEEE® 802.11 b/g/n 2.4 GHz
IEEE 802.11 a/n 5.0 GHz
Five (5) (1 WAN and 4 LAN) Gigabit Ethernet ports with auto-sensing technology
IPv6 Support (Internet Protocol Version 6)

Details: http://www.netgear.com/home/products/wirelessrouters/high-performance/wndr3800.aspx

Availability: June 2011

What's new ?
I have only spotted two new features:
1) USB printer sharing support. [ReadySHARE® Printer—USB port for wireless printing.]
2) NETGEAR Genie. [Easy dashboard control to manage, monitor, and repair home networks]

-- I would like to see better dd-wrt support for this device than wnd3700. Peace Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:27    Post subject: Reply with quote
No FCC ID, no internal pictures, its not even out yet.. but with that CPU speed it seems like its Atheros AR7161.
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wats6831
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hmm wonder why only 64 MB of RAM. Seems like it's not really an improvement over anything they currently offer.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hardware specs look EXACTLY like WNDR3700. Probably just different firmware.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
neo2 wrote:
Hardware specs look EXACTLY like WNDR3700. Probably just different firmware.


Its N 600....

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[QUALCOMM ATHEROS] NETGEAR WNDR3700 v1 -----> DD-WRT v24-sp2 (12/17/14) std - build 25657 (private test)
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LATEST FIRMWARE(S) --> ftp://ftp.dd-wrt.com/betas/
Qualcomm Atheros Wi-Fi Settings --> http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/QCA_wireless_settings
Qualcomm Atheros Client/Repeater Bridge --> http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge#Qualcomm_Atheros

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatsuya46 wrote:
neo2 wrote:
Hardware specs look EXACTLY like WNDR3700. Probably just different firmware.


Its N 600....

And what does that mean in your opinion? Those are just letters and numbers in the name. Probably designed to make you think what you thought. Nowhere in the specs they mention anything about MIMO configuration. Hardware looks EXACTLY like WNDR3700. Two streams in each band, i.e. 300mbps + 300mbps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
neo2 wrote:
tatsuya46 wrote:
neo2 wrote:
Hardware specs look EXACTLY like WNDR3700. Probably just different firmware.


Its N 600....

And what does that mean in your opinion? Those are just letters and numbers in the name. Probably designed to make you think what you thought. Nowhere in the specs they mention anything about MIMO configuration. Hardware looks EXACTLY like WNDR3700. Two streams in each band, i.e. 300mbps + 300mbps.


Bingo!

FCC ID: PY308300092
Reference no.: RF980618L05C
Description of Permissive Change
􀂋 This report is prepared for FCC class II permissive change. The differences
compared with the original report are changing model name, product name, 5GHz
antenna and re-layout the board.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 15:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
On first glance at this post the change i noticed was flash space is doubled.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
16MB flash Smile DD-wrt only need 8Mb usually. Have they resolved the radio death, that the real test.

It has also got an elder brother WNDR4000 N750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/ces-2011/31371-netgears-ces-2011-announcements.


What is this three stream thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote
yousaf465 wrote:
16MB flash Smile DD-wrt only need 8Mb usually. Have they resolved the radio death, that the real test.

It has also got an elder brother WNDR4000 N750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/ces-2011/31371-netgears-ces-2011-announcements.


What is this three stream thing.


According to some on the OpenWRT forum, the wndr4000 is Broadcom based, not Atheros.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
if so then it gone sell like hot cakes, if the performance is also upto it's price mark.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
yousaf465 wrote:
16MB flash Smile DD-wrt only need 8Mb usually. Have they resolved the radio death, that the real test.

It has also got an elder brother WNDR4000 N750 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/ces-2011/31371-netgears-ces-2011-announcements.


What is this three stream thing.


My god, three streams? That is REALLY going to help the congestion.

Do we really like the idea that one person could clog up the whole 2.4Ghz spectrum? When is anyone EVER going to get to use it?

Now I get it, there is 5Ghz too, but even there I think its foolish for them to be pushing technology that could allow a single user to monopolise a huge chunk of the spectrum.

Even if it fails over to two or single stream mode in a busy area, they are just asking for complaints then from people who cannot get more than a single stream working.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 14:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
alexatkinuk wrote:
My god, three streams? That is REALLY going to help the congestion.

Do we really like the idea that one person could clog up the whole 2.4Ghz spectrum? When is anyone EVER going to get to use it?

Now I get it, there is 5Ghz too, but even there I think its foolish for them to be pushing technology that could allow a single user to monopolise a huge chunk of the spectrum.

Even if it fails over to two or single stream mode in a busy area, they are just asking for complaints then from people who cannot get more than a single stream working.

These are "Spatial Division Multiplexing" streams, they occupy the same spectral channel of bandwidth (20MHz or 40MHz). By the way, 802.11n standard allows up to four such streams. 600Mbps anyone?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
WNDR4000 has a "Broadcom BCM4716" chip rev 1 ... So that could lead to really good support regarding open Source Firmware!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:15    Post subject: Reply with quote
granny wrote:
WNDR4000 has a "Broadcom BCM4716" chip rev 1 ... So that could lead to really good support regarding open Source Firmware!


source ?

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