trailed or nv64k?

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you should...
...use the trailed build for your final flash.
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...use the nk64k build for your final flash.
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...rtfm, retard!
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therealantioch
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 23:11    Post subject: trailed or nv64k? Reply with quote
so this is me, complete with oem firmware.

after so much reading, and at the risk of being ignored or perhaps verbally thrashed, perma-banned and having my birthday taken away, ive still got to ask. the wiki says one thing, but the threads i read are full of users saying to use trailed k3.x builds for the final flash? if the wiki is gospel in a sea of conflicting info, why does it say to use the non-trailed build?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:06    Post subject: Router Reply with quote
You forgot to say which router model you are talking about.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:19    Post subject: Re: trailed or nv64k? Reply with quote
therealantioch wrote:
so this is me, complete with oem firmware.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:24    Post subject: Trailed K3X Reply with quote
Stick with the trailed K3X builds once you get dd-wrt on the router.
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TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 13:15    Post subject: Re: trailed or nv64k? Reply with quote
therealantioch wrote:
[Linksys_E1200v2...] the wiki says one thing, but the threads i read are full of users saying to use trailed k3.x builds for the final flash? if the wiki is gospel in a sea of conflicting info, why does it say to use the non-trailed build?
There are some finicky routers (like some older Asus routers) where a trailed build is (reportedly) required to upgrade to K3X from DD K26. Even the wiki for my wndr4500v2 states to use an old k26 build for initial flash, but I flashed mine yesterday from OEM software, direct to the latest k3x .chk file.

Anyway, in general and for the e1200v2, the trailed build is only needed for initial flash, and the nv64k can be used for upgrades thereafter, including for k3x. I use it for my e1500 & wndr4000. But as ian5142 alluded, the trailed build still works; it is only a slight difference in size due to the header information, so it is viewed as "safer".

Also confusing the conjecture; nv60k routers don't have a K3X nv60k build, so the trailed builds are required in that case.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 13:26    Post subject: Wiki Reply with quote
Then update the wiki to match.
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Atheros:
Netgear R7800 x3 - WDS AP / station, gateway, QoS
TP-Link Archer C7 v2 x2 - WDS Station
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
TP-Link 841nd v8 - NU
D-Link 615 C1/E3/I1 x 7 - 1 WDS station
D-Link 825 B1 - NU
D-Link 862L A1 x2 - WDS Station
Netgear WNDR3700v2 - NU
UBNT loco M2 x2 - airOS

Broadcom
Linksys EA6400 - Gateway, QoS
Asus N66U - AP
Netgear WNDR3700v3 - not used
MediaTek
UBNT EdgeRouter X - switch
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 13:34    Post subject: Re: Wiki Reply with quote
ian5142 wrote:
Then update the wiki to match.
It already states to use the nv64k file for upgrades (which the OP stated), as does the firmware FAQ. I will be updating it though, to clean it up.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 13:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
E1200v2 can use nv64 builds. Works well on all older ddwrt builds and probably still works on newer.....
but to have less trouble running k3.x builds you should install build with 'e1200v2' in name.

I haven't intalled on any of my e1200v2 in long time and they are not in use but they seemed to work ok with ddwrt when I used them however 'shibby tomato' firmware for the e1200v2 was probably easier to deal with and worked great for the E1200v2.
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