WDS Bridging on WHR-G300N

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digixmax
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 13:46    Post subject: WDS Bridging on WHR-G300N Reply with quote
I flashed my new WHR-G300N with the pre-sp2 051809 firmware. WDS Bridging -- my preferred bridging mode -- does not work. Repeater Bridge appears to work (I have not used it long enough to know if it would stay up without any issue), and there is no Client Bridge option.
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csplinter
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 15:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you're trying to ask how to fix these problems, according to what I've read, build 030309 is the most compatible firmware, for this router, at this time. I use it myself, and haven't experienced any of the problems you've mentioned.

EDIT: ah, no, I take it back, I too am missing client bridging.
sterlingh
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 16:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
The latest build is 210509 and it does work with the WHR-G300N. I am interested in the Client Bridge option as well and I also have a thread related to this. I am having issues with Repeating Bridge mode.
digixmax
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 19:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
csplinter wrote:
If you're trying to ask how to fix these problems, according to what I've read, build 030309 is the most compatible firmware, for this router, at this time. I use it myself, and haven't experienced any of the problems you've mentioned.

EDIT: ah, no, I take it back, I too am missing client bridging.

Are you using WDS Bridging and it works for you?

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sterlingh
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 19:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, as I understand it (and I could be wrong) WDS is a Broadcom technology and because our WHR-G300Ns use Ralink chipsets, that is not an option for us. Again, I could easily be misinformed. Refer to my previous post (the link therein) for more information on how my network is setup.
digixmax
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 19:59    Post subject: Reply with quote
sterlingh wrote:
The latest build is 210509 and it does work with the WHR-G300N. I am interested in the Client Bridge option as well and I also have a thread related to this. I am having issues with Repeating Bridge mode.

I read your thread but decided not to post there since my interest is in WDS Bridging (I need to be able to attach multiple hosts to the remote router and Client Bridging does not support this and apparently nor does Repeater Bridging) and I didn't want to muddle the thread with a different issue.

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digixmax
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2009 23:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
sterlingh wrote:
No, as I understand it (and I could be wrong) WDS is a Broadcom technology and because our WHR-G300Ns use Ralink chipsets, that is not an option for us. Again, I could easily be misinformed.

Unfortunately, you might be right!

Excerpt from the Wikipedia page on WDS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Distribution_System):

    "# All DD-WRT supported hardware should theoretically support WDS when DD-WRT is installed."
    "# Some Buffalo routers support WDS. All of the Nfniti routers plus the WHR-HP-AG108 do not support WDS."


It's difficult to infer from the above if support of WDS is entirely at firmware level or is hardware dependent.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 4:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi,

Here are the tests I've done with my two WHR-G300N with 21-05-09 firmware:

WDS work well with all wireless mode (N only, Mixed, etc) and security set to no security/WPA2 personal. However, the channel width must be 20MHz (I believe this means N mode is running at 2.4GHz only), otherwise WDS will fail.

You can't monitor WDS connection from wireless status tab. There is nothing there at all, so you will need to ping the both AP to monitor the connection.

The wireless client will kill the WDS connection between the APs => no wireless connection at all, so I guess this means the WDS works only for the wired clients.

The device is very unstable, I have to reboot it multiple times during the tests because it will hang. However, the device is getting much more stable than before. I can't wait when the firmware becomes stable.
sterlingh
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 6:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was able to confirm all of what the previous poster stated except for WDS working with WPA2, I was unable to get that working. WPA worked as I expected it would. If only we could expand the channel width...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 23:10    Post subject: Reply with quote
With 050609 firmware I have WDS working between two WHR-G300Ns at 40MHz channel width and secured with WPA2 personal. Single TCP transfer over the link gives me about 7.3MB/s steady bandwidth between two ethernet connected hosts at both ends. The boxes are now linking downstairs and upstairs of my apartment with two walls in between and distance of about 7 meters. Nice!
sterlingh
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can confirm this. AMAZING!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 14:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
If a wireless device joins one of the two access points that are linked with WDS, the WDS link will still die, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 20:31    Post subject: Reply with quote
060509 build seems perfectly stable in WDS config, 16 days of uptime on my WHR-G300Ns with constant 24/7 traffic flowing between them. Nice, thanks :)
digixmax
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 0:08    Post subject: Reply with quote
tjormola wrote:
060509 build seems perfectly stable in WDS config, 16 days of uptime on my WHR-G300Ns with constant 24/7 traffic flowing between them. Nice, thanks Smile

But does the WDS link still die if a wireless device joins one of the two WDS-linked access points?

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tjormola
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
digixmax wrote:
tjormola wrote:
060509 build seems perfectly stable in WDS config, 16 days of uptime on my WHR-G300Ns with constant 24/7 traffic flowing between them. Nice, thanks :)

But does the WDS link still die if a wireless device joins one of the two WDS-linked access points?


Yes it does. But no other issues with WDS and long-term stability, and in my case, it doesn't matter because the devices would be dedicated to WDS even if regular clients and WDS would work at the same time, though.
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