WNDR4500 (N900) supported?

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jwh7
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 16:27    Post subject: Reply with quote
phlegmer wrote:
Just placed an order on a refurbished 4500
[...]
It's been many years since I played in the Broadcom forums Smile
Well welcome back! Smile Beware...there's a v3 of this router out that isn't DD-compatible (afaik). I wouldn't think a refurb would be v3 though; mine was a refurb, but a year ago.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 17:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
Got my 4500v2. Boy does the size overshadow my 3700 / 3800 routers!

I see there are a few more releases since the last post on this thread. Has anyone tried them and recommend or just use the older version to initial and then "upgrade" to Kong?

Thanks

UPDATE: I just went forward and went straight to the 1/19/2016 build. Haven't put it in production yet but noted a couple things while configuring the settings.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:03    Post subject: Reply with quote
phlegmer wrote:
Got my 4500v2. Boy does the size overshadow my 3700 / 3800 routers!
Ha, ya I thought the same thing vs my 4000. Smile
phlegmer wrote:
I see there are a few more releases since the last post on this thread. Has anyone tried them and recommend or just use the older version to initial and then "upgrade" to Kong?
As noted above, I had a lots of issues with new builds until finding that using 26183, resetting, then applying new builds -without- a reset avoids those issues. Guess you'll see how 28882 does. Razz
phlegmer wrote:
Haven't put it in production yet but[...]
2. When selecting Wide HT40 Channel Width in 2.4GHZ radio, channel changes to "Auto" after save. Drop down has no other options but "Auto". Click Save a 2nd time and then channels 5-11 show up. What happened to 1-4? HT20 has all the channels available in the drop down.
Yup that's normal; its cuz the extension channel is set to lower (the default). So it expands down to the next non-overlapping channel (5 away); like 5 and 1, or 6 and 2, etc. If you changed to upper, the options would change.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
jwh7 wrote:
Yup that's normal; its cuz the extension channel is set to lower (the default). So it expands down to the next non-overlapping channel (5 away); like 5 and 1, or 6 and 2, etc. If you changed to upper, the options would change.


Ah, that makes sense. Wonder why that wasn't setup that way with the 3800 (Atheros) All the channels showed up no matter if upper or lower were selected.

Just put the 4500 in production now. Range already seems to have improved over the 3800. Throughput is only a tad better than what I've experienced. Just used the Speedtest app on the iPad and iPhone. Test was using the same channel.

Wired download I'm getting around 70Mbps as a reference. Test was around 30' away and getting around 15Mbps down. When I test at work, with the same app, I'm getting a max of 50Mbps down. Must have something not quite setup correctly?

Status / Wireless only shows around 72Mbps rate when I was testing. Under Wireless / Basic Settings I do not see any Advanced settings like I do on Atheros routers so not sure what else I can really tweak to get the rate up. Only using the 2.4Ghz radio set as AP and NG-Mix. Any advice?

Also noticed that there are no activity flashing going on with any of the LEDs on this router. Is this current state of the firmware for this or is this a problem for this particular router?

Thanks!

UPDATE:
Scratch my inability to find the Advanced Wireless settings. It's just in it's own tab I see now.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 19:24    Post subject: Reply with quote
phlegmer wrote:
Wired download I'm getting around 70Mbps as a reference. Test was around 30' away and getting around 15Mbps down. When I test at work, with the same app, I'm getting a max of 50Mbps down. Must have something not quite setup correctly?

Status / Wireless only shows around 72Mbps rate when I was testing. Under Wireless / Basic Settings I do not see any Advanced settings like I do on Atheros routers so not sure what else I can really tweak to get the rate up. Only using the 2.4Ghz radio set as AP and NG-Mix. Any advice?

Also noticed that there are no activity flashing going on with any of the LEDs on this router. Is this current state of the firmware for this or is this a problem for this particular router?
The only changes I make for wireless is to set ACK to 200, WPA2-AES, HT40 and channels, disable CTS, and Preamble to Short.

I was last using 28647 and the LEDs were all on. My 4500 is currently out of service until I swap it w/ the 4000 as an AP.

Perhaps it is due to...
Changelog wrote:
=> 28882 ----- 2016/01/19 -------------------------
[...]
[869] Fix: WAN LED when link is down

=> 28846 ----- 2016/01/16 -------------------------
[...]
[794-797] Fix: Broadcom gpio
[790-791] Fix: RT-AC68U 2.4GHz LED

=> 28788 ----- 2016/01/13 -------------------------
[...]
[653-654,783] Upd: LED Trigger

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 19:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll give your wifi settings a try and see if I see if that makes a difference.

The fact that my range is so much better now I decided to order a 2nd 4500 as the backup / new dd-wrt swap router. (Thanks NewEgg for the decently priced refurbes) If I notice that the LED's are still not correct on the 2nd with whatever the latest release is , I'll open a Trac ticket.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 22:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
phlegmer wrote:
Also noticed that there are no activity flashing going on with any of the LEDs
Sorry I misread that...thought you meant yours were all off. So ya my LEDs are always solid on, guess I'm just used to it. I -was- hoping that some of those recent changes might affect it though. :-\
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 23:29    Post subject: QoS still broken? Reply with quote
Hello everyone!

Been reading this thread since I bought my WNDR4500v1

So far the router is fairly solid, except for QoS not working correctly. Sometimes it either breaks my connection completely and needs a hard reboot (which sometimes takes a while to come back up) or cuts my speed in half for no apparent reason.

Has anyone had these issues?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 21:42    Post subject: Re: QoS still broken? Reply with quote
edxmon wrote:
So far the router is fairly solid, except for QoS not working correctly. Sometimes it either breaks my connection completely and needs a hard reboot (which sometimes takes a while to come back up) or cuts my speed in half for no apparent reason.
You're missing some key info; like what build are you using? If its old, try a recent one. Do you not have these issues if QoS is disabled?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 21:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
After 4 days of uptime, WL0 stopped working. Wifi devices no longer can see the beacon. Went into the "Wireless" tab, didn't make any changes and clicked "Apply Settings". Everything appears to be back to normal.

I think I had similar issues with a Linksys E3000 (was that the model?) several years ago. Ended up having to put in a reboot script. Finally just gave up and ended up with Atheros. History repeating itself??
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 15:05    Post subject: Reply with quote
phlegmer wrote:
After 4 days of uptime, WL0 stopped working. Wifi devices no longer can see the beacon. Went into the "Wireless" tab, didn't make any changes and clicked "Apply Settings". Everything appears to be back to normal.
I used to have issues like that until I changed to my new method. Flash 26138, reset/reboot, then flash newer builds without a reset. You'll note from my sig that I haven't tried newer than 28647 yet, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 16:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
The 2nd refurbed came in and it would appear that there are no activity lights even with the stock firmware. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 20:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi all!

I am looking for replacement of old WRT54GL router. It must have a little bit better wifi range. The other function I need to use is Bandwith limiting by mac or ip adresses.
Will be this this router good for that? Is it worth 100€ or shold I buy something newer? Install instrucions on official wiki page are up-to-date? nvram reset 30-30-30 should be done before anf after any update like on old linksys?

Thanks for answers Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2016 20:02    Post subject: Reply with quote
Router: Netgear WNDR4500v1
Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r29002
Kernel: 3.10.96
Status: OK
Reset: no
Errors: no

Web upgrade from r26138, developers, you guys have a WINNER!!! Awesome build, I've been testing various builds in the past couple weeks for a WNDR4500v1 and this one was just the best. Thank you.javascript:emoticon('Very Happy')

I tested:

-SSH with cert exchange
-UPnP
-dnsmasq, nad paring with with DNS blacklist host0 file
-Static dhcp for over 10 devices, fine
-dhcp on both main and guest lans
-Bandwidth graphs on WebGUI show fine
-DDNS update with custom (dnsomatic.com) fine
-Web GUI no errors or gibberish, fast rendering of pages
-SAMBA with multiple folders and user permissions
-MiniDLNA
-PRIVOXY
-Guest Network
-EntWare and Optware installed fine (kept Entware, many more package and more up to date)
-Mounted /Opt and /JFFS fine
-QoS using MAC, guest network as bulk, and torrent traffic
-Overclocking 662mhz
-Tested against 7 Android devices, 2 Laptops Windows 7 and Windows 8, PS4, Xbox 360, and Wii U (both gaming, and minidlna), 3 Windows 7 workstations, 1 Wireless Brother Printer, and Amazon Fire Stick. All services worked fine and fast, like Netflix, gaming, etc.

-Tested throughput for both radios, and both 2.4ghz as well as 5ghz came out better than r26138 and r25015M. Best throughput was achieved with using least congested channels for both 2.4 and 5ghz in my area, using site survey, which worked fine. Plus, under Wireless Advanced tabs, only couple changes from default, Short Preamble, and TX Power modified from Auto to static of 79mw and 106mw respectively, 2.4 and 5ghz.

-Swap Partition gives looping mount error, however, removed partition and created swapfile instead and works fine with swapfile.

-Now testing stability, going on over 12 hours with load of traffic going through it. Will update, once a couple days go by...

Hope this helps others, lots can be done with this build, and may even be a perfect replacement for the famous 26138 and 25015 builds. We'll see...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
jf555 wrote:
Router: Netgear WNDR4500v1
Firmware: DD-WRT v3.0-r29002
Kernel: 3.10.96
Status: OK
Reset: no
Errors: no

Web upgrade from r26138, developers, you guys have a WINNER!!! Awesome build, I've been testing various builds in the past couple weeks for a WNDR4500v1 and this one was just the best. Thank you.javascript:emoticon('Very Happy')

I tested:

-SSH with cert exchange
-UPnP
-dnsmasq, nad paring with with DNS blacklist host0 file
-Static dhcp for over 10 devices, fine
-dhcp on both main and guest lans
-Bandwidth graphs on WebGUI show fine
-DDNS update with custom (dnsomatic.com) fine
-Web GUI no errors or gibberish, fast rendering of pages
-SAMBA with multiple folders and user permissions
-MiniDLNA
-PRIVOXY
-Guest Network
-EntWare and Optware installed fine (kept Entware, many more package and more up to date)
-Mounted /Opt and /JFFS fine
-QoS using MAC, guest network as bulk, and torrent traffic
-Overclocking 662mhz
-Tested against 7 Android devices, 2 Laptops Windows 7 and Windows 8, PS4, Xbox 360, and Wii U (both gaming, and minidlna), 3 Windows 7 workstations, 1 Wireless Brother Printer, and Amazon Fire Stick. All services worked fine and fast, like Netflix, gaming, etc.

-Tested throughput for both radios, and both 2.4ghz as well as 5ghz came out better than r26138 and r25015M. Best throughput was achieved with using least congested channels for both 2.4 and 5ghz in my area, using site survey, which worked fine. Plus, under Wireless Advanced tabs, only couple changes from default, Short Preamble, and TX Power modified from Auto to static of 79mw and 106mw respectively, 2.4 and 5ghz.

-Swap Partition gives looping mount error, however, removed partition and created swapfile instead and works fine with swapfile.

-Now testing stability, going on over 12 hours with load of traffic going through it. Will update, once a couple days go by...

Hope this helps others, lots can be done with this build, and may even be a perfect replacement for the famous 26138 and 25015 builds. We'll see...


Thanks so much!!
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