Netgear R8300 (nighthawk x8 AC5000) mystery ?

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NESJumpman
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 19:56    Post subject: Netgear R8300 (nighthawk x8 AC5000) mystery ? Reply with quote
Saw this at costco at what appeared to be a reasonable price: https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R8300.aspx

However searching the router database, the wiki, this board... I cannot find any mention of an X8 that is AC5000, nor a R8300 model.

Then i went looking for release dates and that was not fruitful either.

So I am not clear if what I am seeing is an old model and it is not supported, or is this some fairly new X8 variant, and support is unknown at this time.

Finally, if I really borked this one, and I could have found this on the forum, let me know that too. Maybe there is a keyword or alternate model number or something I am not aware of.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 14:34    Post subject: Re: Netgear R8300 (nighthawk x8 AC5000) mystery ? Reply with quote
NESJumpman wrote:
Saw this at costco at what appeared to be a reasonable price: https://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R8300.aspx

However searching the router database, the wiki, this board... I cannot find any mention of an X8 that is AC5000, nor a R8300 model.

Then i went looking for release dates and that was not fruitful either.

So I am not clear if what I am seeing is an old model and it is not supported, or is this some fairly new X8 variant, and support is unknown at this time.

Finally, if I really borked this one, and I could have found this on the forum, let me know that too. Maybe there is a keyword or alternate model number or something I am not aware of.


looks to me like an R8500, happened before with other models, i could be wrong though.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 18:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
The number of usb ports is reduced to one.
NESJumpman
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 22:45    Post subject: Reply with quote
Per Yngve Berg wrote:
The number of usb ports is reduced to one.


Otherwise, this is the same as the "R8500 AC5300", and the firmware for that unit should work? Or has there been historical cases where one would assume its all the same, only to find out something else has changed in manufacturing and the firmware fails until someone can get a unit and tweak as needed?



Since the other numbers changed, but the X8 remained the same - what does the "X8" indicate?
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
NESJumpman wrote:
Per Yngve Berg wrote:
The number of usb ports is reduced to one.


Otherwise, this is the same as the "R8500 AC5300", and the firmware for that unit should work? Or has there been historical cases where one would assume its all the same, only to find out something else has changed in manufacturing and the firmware fails until someone can get a unit and tweak as needed?



Since the other numbers changed, but the X8 remained the same - what does the "X8" indicate?

Just branding marketing

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 18:54    Post subject: Reply with quote
If this was the case, we'd be able to flash to the r8500 kong build, but we cannot. It still appears that the board IDs are different.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 23:41    Post subject: R8300 to R8500 Reply with quote
For those who find this thread from Google, I was able to successfully install the kong build of dd-wrt on my r8300 by first flashing the r8500 firmware from Netgear's site and then flashing the dd-wrt firmware.

Not sure if it is absolutely necessary to flash to r8500 first as I did not try to flash to dd-wrt directly from r8300, however I did and it worked fine.

Kong build I used

Netgear support page

Official R8500 Firmware
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 23:06    Post subject: R8300 Reply with quote
Hello spicyusername,

Did your procedure remove the speed limitation of 600 Mbps?

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:56    Post subject: Re: R8300 to R8500 Reply with quote
I followed your procedure but DDWRT will not recognize the 2.4GHZ radio. Did you have this problem also?

spicyusername wrote:
For those who find this thread from Google, I was able to successfully install the kong build of dd-wrt on my r8300 by first flashing the r8500 firmware from Netgear's site and then flashing the dd-wrt firmware.

Not sure if it is absolutely necessary to flash to r8500 first as I did not try to flash to dd-wrt directly from r8300, however I did and it worked fine.

Kong build I used

Netgear support page

Official R8500 Firmware
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:01    Post subject: Re: R8300 to R8500 Reply with quote
pschultz wrote:
I followed your procedure but DDWRT will not recognize the 2.4GHZ radio. Did you have this problem also?


In my case, dd-wrt sees the 3 radio bands, including 2.4GHz. Is it still not appearing for you?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:05    Post subject: Re: R8300 to R8500 Reply with quote
spicyusername wrote:
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Not sure if it is absolutely necessary to flash to r8500 first as I did not try to flash to dd-wrt directly from r8300, however I did and it worked fine.


That intermediate step is not necessary, I flashed directly the dd-wrt r8500 image on the r8300 and it worked.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:40    Post subject: Re: R8300 to R8500 Reply with quote
wrtmyrouter wrote:
pschultz wrote:
I followed your procedure but DDWRT will not recognize the 2.4GHZ radio. Did you have this problem also?


In my case, dd-wrt sees the 3 radio bands, including 2.4GHz. Is it still not appearing for you?


the one problem I did find was that the eth devices list ranges from 0 to 3 when it should range 0 to 5 as it has 6 ports. DD-WRT UI shows only 4 ports as well and ifconfig in the device shows until eth3.

But, if I plug in the eth cable in any of the ports, it gets an IP address and connectivity, meaning the router is driving it.

Any ideas as to what could the problem be?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
eth0 is the internal switch (all ethernet ports), eth1,2,3 are the radio's
https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Default_internal_device_network

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 14:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not clear which fw I should be running on this
.both 8500 and 8300 few is mentioned in this thread. Got one of these cheap and want Kong build.on.it..

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 15:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
lgkahn wrote:
Not clear which fw I should be running on this. both 8500 and 8300 few is mentioned in this thread.
The FCC IDs and OEM firmware are the same (at the binary level, not just the filename), so R8500 firmware should work fine.

Kong build for initial flash:
http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-Arm/dd-wrt.K3_R8500.chk

..and for DD-WRT upgrades:
http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-Arm/dd-wrt.v24-K3_AC_ARM_R8500.bin

I don't own either of these, so be aware of the risk you assume here. You should know how to recover (TFTP/Serial) and read the FAQ:
https://wiki.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Firmware_FAQ

Let us know how it goes. Wink

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