Asus N66U CFE Flash Limitation Not Being Worked?

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jprez1980
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 19:49    Post subject: Asus N66U CFE Flash Limitation Not Being Worked? Reply with quote
So I've been on the phone with ASUS a good portion of the day trying to get to the bottom of this. According to the message below it appears the ball is in DD-WRTs court - same message I was told numerous times on the phone. Anyone know otherwise?


Hello,

I believe the NVRAM has been updated in the official ASUS firmware. As far as DD-WRT, it is up to the developers to implement the same changes. I think I remember reading someone asking about it on the DD-WRT forums and the response back was that they weren't working on it.

I could be wrong, but that is what I remember.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 22:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
Update: received a call and an email this afternoon (see below) question now is how this has been implemented....

I apologize, but the development team was not able to meet the June deadline. The release will be on 9/7/12. The final version is being evaluated at this time.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:30    Post subject: Reply with quote
jprez1980 wrote:
Update: received a call and an email this afternoon (see below) question now is how this has been implemented....

I apologize, but the development team was not able to meet the June deadline. The release will be on 9/7/12. The final version is being evaluated at this time.


As far as I know, this is the kernel-based fix that has been available in the code since June (but that hasn't been enabled in Asus's builds so far). I haven't heard any news about an updated CFE from my end, and the beta I got yesterday didn't seem to indicate any form of CFE update with it.

EDIT: note that any CFE update would have to be bundled separately from a regular firmware update. The firmware updater only replaces the kernel and the rootfs partitions, it does not touch the pmon partition (for obvious safety reasons).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks RMerlin - looks like you hit the nail on the head from what I'm hearing. Best that I can tell, without ASUS performing a CFE update DD-WRT isn't going to address:

http://svn.dd-wrt.com:8000/ticket/2640

It doesn't appear to me from the folks I've been dealing with that there are any plans for ASUS to update the CFE "as their firmware update will address will resolve the issue" - it's the way they are resolving it that seems to be the problem (firmware/kernel hack vs. CFE).

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Gingernut
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
RMerlin wrote:
jprez1980 wrote:
Update: received a call and an email this afternoon (see below) question now is how this has been implemented....

I apologize, but the development team was not able to meet the June deadline. The release will be on 9/7/12. The final version is being evaluated at this time.


As far as I know, this is the kernel-based fix that has been available in the code since June (but that hasn't been enabled in Asus's builds so far). I haven't heard any news about an updated CFE from my end, and the beta I got yesterday didn't seem to indicate any form of CFE update with it.

EDIT: note that any CFE update would have to be bundled separately from a regular firmware update. The firmware updater only replaces the kernel and the rootfs partitions, it does not touch the pmon partition (for obvious safety reasons).


I've updated a Broadcom adsl modem with a factory firmware image that had an updated CFE bundled and it updated both with one flash, just like a normal update, so it's definitely possible.

Asus seems it not necessary.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:19    Post subject: Reply with quote
Gingernut wrote:

I've updated a Broadcom adsl modem with a factory firmware image that had an updated CFE bundled and it updated both with one flash, just like a normal update, so it's definitely possible.

Asus seems it not necessary.


It is possible if stock firmware have support for it - most mfgrs do only support firmware updates via the gui.

The CFE itself has support for tftp update of the CFE but that is not something every customer can do.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 17:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
As LOM said. And it makes sense - one of the ideas behind the CFE for a mass market product is to allow end users to always safely recover from a botched flash update.

If Asus were to provide a CFE update, it would most likely be an executable that would require you to put your router in Recovery Mode, and at that point it would tftp the CFE update to the router. Not something they can develop overnight, and definitely something that carries the risk of permanently bricking your router. So I could understand if they decided to not go ahead with such a plan, as it involves costs and risks of increased RMAs.
benito11
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 19:14    Post subject: Reply with quote
now the firmware fix is available in the asus web.

I think that obviously not everybody can update CFE, but they could fix it and publish with no warranty maybe... so that we can use dd-wrt with no hacks...

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