Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 0:35 Post subject: E3000 w/ DDWRT is my bottleneck...why?
I have been throwing service requests at Comcast trying to figure out why my 105mbps internet is only yielding 45-50mbps downstream. Then tonight, when I thought there was a 1% chance of this actually working, I put my laptop directly to the modem, and bingo, 125mbps down. WOW. So I took an identical E3000 that I have sitting around (albeit with stock firmware) and plugged that in, and same thing. 125mbps down. So I am leaning toward DDWRT as the culprit.
I am running this:
Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (03/25/13) big - build 21061
Are there any settings that could actually affect this performance? Obviously it's affecting local network performance too, but I just never realized it.
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:10 Post subject:
Personal thoughts on things to try. (What I would do)
1. 30/30/30 or 'erase nvram' then reboot
2. flash Kong 22000++ and test (Following proper procedures)
Just a note, do some tests with basic services running only. e.g. reset, login, set username/password (admin/admin), set up basic WAN (DHCP, Static, PPPoE, etc.)
Then go from there.
P.S. For other responders (GURU's), I have absolutely no idea what the max speed is that the E3000 can handle hardware-wise. _________________ KONG Builds for R7000, AC68U
Brainslayer for everything else
DDWRT is the definite problem here, and I can't believe that I am the first one to bring this up.
I took my E3000 with stock Linksys firmware and ran speedtests to get 125mbps down. Then I did the initial trailed build (dd-wrt.v24-14929_NEWD-2_K2.6_std_usb_ftp-e3000) and before changing any settings, or flashing to another build, I ran a speedtest. 44mbps.
Thanks a lot DDWRT. What good is custom firmware if it neuters my network speed...
DDWRT is the definite problem here, and I can't believe that I am the first one to bring this up.
I took my E3000 with stock Linksys firmware and ran speedtests to get 125mbps down. Then I did the initial trailed build (dd-wrt.v24-14929_NEWD-2_K2.6_std_usb_ftp-e3000) and before changing any settings, or flashing to another build, I ran a speedtest. 44mbps.
Thanks a lot DDWRT. What good is custom firmware if it neuters my network speed...
Dd-wrt is a Cadillac, not a porche. That being said, see notes 1,3 and 4 of the peacock announcement. No one can tell you about whether there is a better build without knowing which build you are now using, but dd-wrt is often not faster than stock.
I've seen many other Cadillac not Corvette analogies on dd-wrt over the years. ^^That^^ was just a recent example.
If you don't need the advanced features of DD-WRT perhaps just running stock is your answer.
All that said, did you try Kong's 22200++ on your E3000?
this is E4200 flavored, but other have had success on that build with "similar-ish" hardware.
i.e. start with the "changelog" and "readme" before digging into the 22200++ folder blindly. _________________ reenignE esreveR
Resistance is NOT futile... It's Voltage divided by Current!
Assumptions:
1. Everyone on the forum has read the relevant forum section announcements.
2. For Broadcom section we have ALL at least tried to understand the "Peacock" thread,HERE
OK, I have tried twice now to flash to that kong 22000++ build, and it says successful, but after logging back in, it is still showing DD-WRT v24-sp2 (03/25/13) mini - build 21061.
OK, I have tried twice now to flash to that kong 22000++ build, and it says successful, but after logging back in, it is still showing DD-WRT v24-sp2 (03/25/13) mini - build 21061.
!!!Attention: Always clear your browser cache before flashing!!!
RT-N66U build for 64K CFE mod labeled nv64k-RT-N66U-broadcom.trx
Builds based on r20780 or newer:
Builds labeled kingkong nv32k are suitable for Asus RT-N16
Builds labeled kingkong nv60k are suitable for E3200 / E4200
Builds labeled nv32k are suitable for Netgear WNR3500L V1, Asus RT-N16, Linksys WRT610 V2, Belkin F7D4302/F7D3302
Builds labeled nv60k are suitable for Linksys E2000 / E2500 / E3000 / 4200
Builds labeled nv64k are suitable for Netgear WNDR 3400 / WNDR 4000 / WNDR 3700 V3
* Linksys WRT 610 V1 not supported anymore
PS from where you started go back to 14929 was kind of a step backwards _________________ reenignE esreveR
Resistance is NOT futile... It's Voltage divided by Current!
Assumptions:
1. Everyone on the forum has read the relevant forum section announcements.
2. For Broadcom section we have ALL at least tried to understand the "Peacock" thread,HERE
OK, I have tried twice now to flash to that kong 22000++ build, and it says successful, but after logging back in, it is still showing DD-WRT v24-sp2 (03/25/13) mini - build 21061.
What's going on here?
Be sure to read all of the required reading sections in the peacock announcement. This could be a common browser issue. _________________ SIG:
I'm trying to teach you to fish, not give you a fish. If you just want a fish, wait for a fisherman who hands them out. I'm more of a fishing instructor.
LOM: "If you show that you have not bothered to read the forum announcements or to follow the advices in them then the level of help available for you will drop substantially, also known as Murrkf's law.."
I've read all the threads and wiki pages about it.
I've gone through the 20 steps numerous times now, following all the time requirements, and it's getting tiring.
I've tried in Chrome and IE.
The Kong build will simply will not flash, even though I am starting with a trailed build.
Same results. And all this in HOPES that the Kong build will somehow magically yield the throughput it should.
But I have my doubts.
Unfortunately I don't have oodles of free time to sit here and press this, 30-30-30 that, power cycle this, click my heels, etc.
Would you guys be so kind to recommend a router that actually doesn't have issues with gigabit switch or gigabit WAN when using DDWRT? I would love something to work out of the box with a simple DDWRT flash.
I should also note that these speed issues I am having are not only wireless, but when I am directly wired to the router. (if that should matter)
**edit
This is certainly not a CPU load issue as it currently is sitting at 2% load during a speedtest.
I've tried in Chrome and IE.
The Kong build will simply will not flash, even though I am starting with a trailed build.
Maybe you should not be using a trailed build, but again, I doubt that it is relevant in your case. I know in the past we would recommend that people NOT use a trailed build for subsequent flashing. _________________ SIG:
I'm trying to teach you to fish, not give you a fish. If you just want a fish, wait for a fisherman who hands them out. I'm more of a fishing instructor.
LOM: "If you show that you have not bothered to read the forum announcements or to follow the advices in them then the level of help available for you will drop substantially, also known as Murrkf's law.."
DDWRT is the definite problem here, and I can't believe that I am the first one to bring this up.
I took my E3000 with stock Linksys firmware and ran speedtests to get 125mbps down. Then I did the initial trailed build (dd-wrt.v24-14929_NEWD-2_K2.6_std_usb_ftp-e3000) and before changing any settings, or flashing to another build, I ran a speedtest. 44mbps.
Thanks a lot DDWRT. What good is custom firmware if it neuters my network speed...
then...
phuz wrote:
I've read all the threads and wiki pages about it.
I've gone through the 20 steps numerous times now, following all the time requirements, and it's getting tiring.
I've tried in Chrome and IE.
The Kong build will simply will not flash, even though I am starting with a trailed build.
Same results. And all this in HOPES that the Kong build will somehow magically yield the throughput it should.
But I have my doubts.
Unfortunately I don't have oodles of free time to sit here and press this, 30-30-30 that, power cycle this, click my heels, etc.
Would you guys be so kind to recommend a router that actually doesn't have issues with gigabit switch or gigabit WAN when using DDWRT? I would love something to work out of the box with a simple DDWRT flash.
I should also note that these speed issues I am having are not only wireless, but when I am directly wired to the router. (if that should matter)
**edit
This is certainly not a CPU load issue as it currently is sitting at 2% load during a speedtest.
Assuming you don't have a browser cache problem...
you mentioned going back to 14929, did you 30-30-30 reset? before and after each flash? Skipping the "sit here and press this, 30-30-30 that, power cycle this, click my heels, etc. " could cause you problems.
PS. when I converted my WRT610Nv2 to an E3000 I think I recently took the following build flash steps to get back to Kong 22200++
I've also documented this "route" as working, but that was long ago:
1) dd-wrt.v24-14929_NEWD-2_K2.6_std_usb_ftp-e3000.bin
2) dd-wrt.v24-16994_NEWD-2_K2.6_voip-e2k-e3k.bin
3) usb-ftp-samba3-vpn-nv60k-broadcom.bin (from Kong's site but a much earlier k26 revision folder) _________________ reenignE esreveR
Resistance is NOT futile... It's Voltage divided by Current!
Assumptions:
1. Everyone on the forum has read the relevant forum section announcements.
2. For Broadcom section we have ALL at least tried to understand the "Peacock" thread,HERE
I'll say it again. I did not skip and steps and I followed the 20-step procedure numerous times.
I'm not trying to be difficult, but this is obviously much more work than I should have to endure to get an operational unit, so I would like to take advice on a unit that DOES work without needing to jump through all these hoops.
Years ago I might have been OK with spending a week trying to get this to work right, but not today.
Try one of these (Exact links) and report back. The E3000 is a great router.
Also, just to add. 30/30/30 before AND after and clear you browser cache. Oh and don't use Firefox. _________________ KONG Builds for R7000, AC68U
Brainslayer for everything else
fair enough, if you don't like farting around with this stuff...
may I ask what DD-WRT functionality you can't live without? (i.e. perhaps stock firmware is the least hassle)
Most everyone these days likes the R7000 units. I've had good experiences with my R6300v2 units (which you can pickup used on eBay for less than half the cost of a R7000).
The Asus fans would probably recommend one of those AC units.
Since watching these forums since 2007 I've noticed that it often takes a year (give or take) before dd-wrt matures, so I'd stay away from the extreme cutting edge new hardware for a while longer (i.e. R8000, WRT1900AC, etc.)
Ultimately you are going to want to spend a lot of time reading up on whatever device you buy if you plan to live in the 3rd party firmware world.
Late Edit:
good call simulation man
Phuz,
if you do what simulationman suggested, check to see what firmware revision is reported in the gui after the first 30-30-30 reset.
Assumptions:
1. Everyone on the forum has read the relevant forum section announcements.
2. For Broadcom section we have ALL at least tried to understand the "Peacock" thread,HERE
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