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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:05    Post subject: Buffalo WZR-HP-AG300H Reply with quote
Hello.

I have been in contact recently with Buffalo about when a newer buffalo pro dd-wrt build is slated to come out for the wzr-hp-g300nh, they informed me that it would be soon but right now the dd-wrt devs are busy with a new Buffalo unit that will soon be arriving in US stores by mid Feb to early March.

Buffalo WZR-HP-AG300H

This unit seems to be a real BEAST. Its pretty much a beefed up wzr-hp-g300nh. They doubled the RAM from 64 with the g300nh to 128MB, and added a 5Ghz radio as well. It should also be fully dd-wrt supported as well and ship with dd-wrt as the later (after aug 2010) buffalos did. I really like my wzr-hp-g300nh and hope this newer unit provides great performance as the g300nh does.

Thought you buff heads might enjoy this.

Best Regards

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:27    Post subject: Reply with quote
thx for the headups.
hope though devs find a way to fix the 300Mbps sync speed issue on the wzr-hp-g300nh.
gargoyle firmware is better in this department but slower on max download throughput then ddwrt. need to kill bwmon to fix that issue.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
So finally we will see a ASUS RT-N16 killer Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
IMHO the RT-N16 is not to hard to kill, i have one myself, i'm not way impressed with it. Its an average unit to me, yes i know its the big rave in the broadcom forum for "Optware the right way" users, but i however do not use frater's optware mod as i feel it is geared toward how his setup is, mine maybe different than his, so i set mine up accordingly.

In my tests, I would have figured the RT-N16 to be radio strong with its external antennas, was i wrong! The RT-N16 and Linksys E3000 are same broadcom chip based units, the only things the Asus has over the E3000 is 2 USB ports (instead of 1 with E3000) and bigger flash rom and ram. The E3000 actually performed better for me in my radio tests than the RT-N16 did with pretty much the same default dd-wrt settings, i also did a little more research into the RT-N16 and most reviews end up with the same as the one on smallnetbuilder.com with very average results.

I only have 2 different buffalo units so far, a whr-hp-g54 and wzr-hp-g300nh, and of all my routers i have here (and yes i have a shitload), the buffalo's have the strongest "out of the box" radios i have used to date, i see why Brainslayer choose to dev buffalo pro dd-wrt firmware for them, only thing holding me back from exclusively using nothing but Atheros units, is lack of VLANs with it. If/when it ever gets VLANs, its on!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
buddee wrote:
IMHO the RT-N16 is not to hard to kill, i have one myself, i'm not way impressed with it. Its an average unit to me, yes i know its the big rave in the broadcom forum for "Optware the right way" users, but i however do not use frater's optware mod as i feel it is geared toward how his setup is, mine maybe different than his, so i set mine up accordingly.

In my tests, I would have figured the RT-N16 to be radio strong with its external antennas, was i wrong! The RT-N16 and Linksys E3000 are same broadcom chip based units, the only things the Asus has over the E3000 is 2 USB ports (instead of 1 with E3000) and bigger flash rom and ram. The E3000 actually performed better for me in my radio tests than the RT-N16 did with pretty much the same default dd-wrt settings, i also did a little more research into the RT-N16 and most reviews end up with the same as the one on smallnetbuilder.com with very average results.

I only have 2 different buffalo units so far, a whr-hp-g54 and wzr-hp-g300nh, and of all my routers i have here (and yes i have a shitload), the buffalo's have the strongest "out of the box" radios i have used to date, i see why Brainslayer choose to dev buffalo pro dd-wrt firmware for them, only thing holding me back from exclusively using nothing but Atheros units, is lack of VLANs with it. If/when it ever gets VLANs, its on!


What about the user like me who don't need too strong radios, but will running a load of optware packages.

For what purpose do you use vlans ?

I'm interested in buffalo as they come with pre installed dd wrt. So no issue of voiding the warranty. ( As my source is really fussy about warranty)

Also no mention of cpu, switch etc http://infodepot.wikia.com/wiki/Buffalo_WZR-HP-AG300H
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
yousaf465 wrote:


What about the user like me who don't need too strong radios, but will running a load of optware packages.

For what purpose do you use vlans ?

I'm interested in buffalo as they come with pre installed dd wrt. So no issue of voiding the warranty. ( As my source is really fussy about warranty)

Also no mention of cpu, switch etc http://infodepot.wikia.com/wiki/Buffalo_WZR-HP-AG300H


A user like you that doesn't need strong radios but wants to run alot of optware packages?

It has a USB and you can install optware packages onto the buffalo as i have already stated many times, you have to use the openwrt repository for packages on atheros units though. Why users here fail to do it is beyond me.

I use VLANs as the title implies, so i can create virtual lans and split up my network. If you don't know what it is and don't use them, you'd not ever be affected by this.

All of the unit's specs are TBA, i am pretty sure it will be some kind of Xspan 7xxx series Atheros chip as its 2x2 MIMO.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
buddee wrote:
IMHO the RT-N16 is not to hard to kill, i have one myself, i'm not way impressed with it. Its an average unit to me, yes i know its the big rave in the broadcom forum



i have to disagree with you on this staement.
for me for now the RT-N16 is one of the best routers out there. the secret lays in choosing the right firmware for youre device/target job.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:39    Post subject: Reply with quote
virremova wrote:
buddee wrote:
IMHO the RT-N16 is not to hard to kill, i have one myself, i'm not way impressed with it. Its an average unit to me, yes i know its the big rave in the broadcom forum



i have to disagree with you on this staement.
for me for now the RT-N16 is one of the best routers out there. the secret lays in choosing the right firmware for youre device/target job.


Maybe so for you, but in my tests i concluded that its an average broadcom unit and so did many others.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31058-asus-rt-n16-gigabit-n-router-reviewed

I found their cons with the radio performance to be in full effect with me as well.

Also, we are getting side tracked here, this post is supposed to be about the buffalo, not the asus. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
buddee wrote:
yousaf465 wrote:


What about the user like me who don't need too strong radios, but will running a load of optware packages.

For what purpose do you use vlans ?

I'm interested in buffalo as they come with pre installed dd wrt. So no issue of voiding the warranty. ( As my source is really fussy about warranty)

Also no mention of cpu, switch etc http://infodepot.wikia.com/wiki/Buffalo_WZR-HP-AG300H


A user like you that doesn't need strong radios but wants to run alot of optware packages?

It has a USB and you can install optware packages onto the buffalo as i have already stated many times, you have to use the openwrt repository for packages on atheros units though. Why users here fail to do it is beyond me.

All of the unit's specs are TBA, i am pretty sure it will be some kind of Xspan 7xxx series Atheros chip as its 2x2 MIMO.


I know that, as you previously explained this in another thread. Doesn't the ram will be an issue with packages such as Transmission daemon http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Transmission_daemon ?

For comparison.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_chart/Itemid,189/

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_wireless/Itemid,200


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:51    Post subject: Reply with quote
Scratch my original post...

From the message i got from the buffalo tech was this..

"Also I do know that we have a new dual band router coming out that has a 680MHz processor and 256MB ram"

Even better!

Also, as far as transmission is concerned, that shouldn't be a problem, my wzr-hp-g300nh and e3000 both only have 64MB ram and have no probs. This should just make it that much more better.

And as i said in previous, i'm betting it'll be an Atheros 7161 X-Span chip, yea i'll be looking to get one of these ASAP!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
buddee wrote:
Scratch my original post...

From the message i got from the buffalo tech was this..

"Also I do know that we have a new dual band router coming out that has a 680MHz processor and 256MB ram"

Even better!

Also, as far as transmission is concerned, that shouldn't be a problem, my wzr-hp-g300nh and e3000 both only have 64MB ram and have no probs. This should just make it that much more better.

And as i said in previous, i'm betting it'll be an Atheros 7161 X-Span chip, yea i'll be looking to get one of these ASAP!




My ESP is running wild Wink , just as I though it might be a 256MB beast. If they sell this thing under $ 150 I'm sure to buy it.

How many torrents do you run in wzr-hp-g300nh ? Also I did heard something of torrent not being deleted.


Oh one more thing

Quote:
The Atheros AR5008AP-3NX2 chipset consists of dual AR5416 MAC/baseband ICs, the AR2133 and AR5133 radios and the AR7161 wireless network processor. The solution is based on Atheros’ XSPAN with Signal-Sustain Technology, the unique 3x3 MIMO architecture that achieves significantly greater connection reliability and coverage.

http://www.atheros.com/corporate/content.php?nav1=119&news=108

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Two integrated USB 2.0 MAC/PHYs


http://www.atheros.com/networking/brand.php?brand=4&product=68
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 5:08    Post subject: Reply with quote
The following are the deailts I could gather from different sources.













The back WZR-HP-AG300H, the former model's front WZR-HP-G300NH. Thicker than the previous model is the antenna





Ralink drivers ?? Rolling Eyes

Quote:
The WZR-HP-AG300H AirStation Nfiniti Wireless-N High Power Dual Band Router & Access Point is simultaneous dual band and runs DD-WRT firmware.

Features include one Gigabit WAN and four switched Gigabit LAN ports, VPN (PPTP, OpenVPN) support, VLAN tagging, multiple SSIDs, RADIUS server, hot spot support, radio and access scheduling and iPv6 support. The router can also be configured as an access point or bridge / repeater.

The WZR-HP-AG300N will be available next month at an estimated street price of $149.99.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/ces-2011/31374-ces-2011-buffalo-technology-announcements

Hardware information:
CPU:
-AR7161

Network:
-AR9223
-AR9220
-AR8316

Memory:
-2 flash, 16MB each, 32MB total.
-2 RAM chip, 128MB total.

bBoot log:

Code:
Code:
BUFFALO U-BOOT Ver 1.00
  == CPU:680MHz, DDR:340MHz, AHB:170MHz ==
AP96 (ar7100) U-boot 0.0.1
DRAM:  128 MB
Top of RAM usable for U-Boot at: 84000000
Reserving 265k for U-Boot at: 83fbc000
Reserving 192k for malloc() at: 83f8c000
Reserving 44 Bytes for Board Info at: 83f8bfd4
Reserving 36 Bytes for Global Data at: 83f8bfb0
Reserving 128k for boot params() at: 83f6bfb0
Stack Pointer at: 83f6bf98
Now running in RAM - U-Boot at: 83fbc000
flash bank #0 found 16 MB flash [MX25L128-45E, blk:0x10000, sectors:256]
flash bank #1 found 16 MB flash [W25Q128BV, blk:0x10000, sectors:256]
Flash: 32 MB
In:    serial
Out:   serial
Err:   serial
Memory Test
uboot use  83F6BFB0 - 84000000
Memory Test start(80000000) end(83F00000) size(03F00000)
Pattern 00000000  Writing...  Reading...
Memory Test start(84000000) end(88000000) size(04000000)
Pattern 00000000  Writing...  Reading...
Memory Test OK
### buf_ver=[1.00] U-Boot Ver.=[1.00]
### build_date(env)=[Jun  1 2010 - 13:48:44] build_date(bin)=[Jun  1 2010 - 13:4
8:44]
ag7100_enet_initialize...
Reading MAC Address from ENV(0x83f8c2f1)
Port 0, Neg Success
Port 1, Neg Success
Port 2, Neg Success
Port 3, Neg Success
eth0: Phy Specific Status=0010
eth0: Phy Specific Status=0010
eth0: Phy Speth0: 02:aa:bb:cc:dd:20
eth0 up
Reading MAC Address from ENV(0x83f8c2f1)
Port 4, Neg Success
eth1: Phy Specific Status=0010
eth1: 02:aa:bb:cc:dd:21
eth1 up
eth0  02:AA:BB:CC:DD:20
, eth1  02:AA:BB:CC:DD:21

eth0 link down

tftp server(receive) go, waiting:2[sec]
eth0 link down
Load address: 0x84000000

TftpServer Timeout;
no file was loaded.
change bootargs
console=ttyS0,115200 root=31:03 rootfstype=jffs2 init=/sbin/init mtdparts=ar7100
-nor0:256k(u-boot),64k(u-boot-env),1152k@384k(uImage),6592k@1536k(rootfs),64k@32
0k(ART),64k@8128k(properties),8192k@8192k(flash1),16384k@16384k(flash2) mem=128M

## Booting image at bf060000 ...


U-boot env:
Code:
ar7100> printenv
bootargs=console=ttyS0,115200 root=31:03 rootfstype=jffs2 init=/sbin/init mtdpar
ts=ar7100-nor0:256k(u-boot),64k(u-boot-env),1152k@384k(uImage),6592k@1536k(rootf
s),64k@320k(ART),64k@8128k(properties),8192k@8192k(flash1),16384k@16384k(flash2)

bootcmd=bootm BF060000
baudrate=115200
ethaddr=02:AA:BB:CC:DD:20
ipaddr=192.168.11.1
serverip=192.168.11.2
fw_eaddr=BF060000 BEFFFFFF
uboot_eaddr=BF000000 BF03FFFF
u_fw=erase $fw_eaddr; cp.fw $fileaddr BF060000 $filesize; bootm BF060000;
ut_fw=tftp $tmp_ram firmware.bin; erase $fw_eaddr; cp.fw $fileaddr BF060000 $fil
esize; bootm BF060000;
ut_uboot=tftp $tmp_ram u-boot.bin; protect off $uboot_eaddr; erase $uboot_eaddr;
 cp.b $fileaddr BF000000 $filesize;
melco_id=RD_BB10020
hw_rev=0
uboot_ethaddr=02:AA:BB:CC:DD:20
DEF-p_wireless_ath00_11bg-authmode=psk
DEF-p_wireless_ath00_11bg-crypto=tkip+aes
DEF-p_wireless_ath00_11bg-authmode_ex=mixed-psk
DEF-p_wireless_ath10_11a-authmode=psk
DEF-p_wireless_ath10_11a-crypto=tkip+aes
DEF-p_wireless_ath10_11a-authmode_ex=mixed-psk
custom_id=0
buf_ver=1.00
region=JP
tmp_ram=84000000
tmp_bottom=88000000
build_date=Jun  1 2010 - 13:48:44
DEF-p_wireless_ath00_11bg-wpapsk=48r5vv7yvtwtw
DEF-p_wireless_ath10_11a-wpapsk=48r5vv7yvtwtw
pincode=42420705
tftp_wait=2
buf_crc=6978B849
stdin=serial
stdout=serial
stderr=serial
loadaddr=84000000
ethact=eth0

Environment size: 1330/65532 bytes


https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=27923

It is avaiable at amazon japan at ¥ 8,980 approx = 108 US$


A review with a lots of pictures


Another review

Moderator edit: Fixed the links that were skewing the page format.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:39    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shocked Wow, Yes looks good, can't wait till it is available at newegg or amazon. Right now at newegg they got good prices on the refurbished wzr-hp-g300nh and various other buffalo units. I purchased one of the g300nh units myself from them, works awesome and basically half the price.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
buddee wrote:
Shocked Wow, Yes looks good, can't wait till it is available at newegg or amazon. Right now at newegg they got good prices on the refurbished wzr-hp-g300nh and various other buffalo units. I purchased one of the g300nh units myself from them, works awesome and basically half the price.


I have heard alot about radios dropping connections

Does your do the same ?


New is for $69.99, Recertified is priced at $49.99 and Open Box is selling for $60.99

Recertified with 2 years Service Net Recertified Replacement Extended Warranty Plan cost $68.26

New with 1 year Service Net Recertified Replacement Extended Warranty Plan cost $79.98

Any advice ? Is it better to buy a refurbished product than risking a new one ? Are there any issue regarding serial numbers ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 15:10    Post subject: Reply with quote
yousaf465 wrote:
buddee wrote:
Shocked Wow, Yes looks good, can't wait till it is available at newegg or amazon. Right now at newegg they got good prices on the refurbished wzr-hp-g300nh and various other buffalo units. I purchased one of the g300nh units myself from them, works awesome and basically half the price.


I have heard alot about radios dropping connections

Does your do the same ?


New is for $69.99, Recertified is priced at $49.99 and Open Box is selling for $60.99

Recertified with 2 years Service Net Recertified Replacement Extended Warranty Plan cost $68.26

New with 1 year Service Net Recertified Replacement Extended Warranty Plan cost $79.98

Any advice ? Is it better to buy a refurbished product than risking a new one ? Are there any issue regarding serial numbers ?


I wouldn't have said it works awesome if it dropped connections. ;)

My refurb is fine, makes me wanna buy another one.

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