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zGunBLADEz
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 20:00    Post subject: Reply with quote
True. Im just sharing my findings. I find tricky vht80 at best specially at distance.

Find funny i can connect to my 5ghz band just fine VHT80 and everything and not the 2.4ghz on my 8500 on the farthest place on my house..

I just found a good setting for vht80 that i can use with no problem as of now. Both 5ghz phones connect no problem. Also my router is getting 100% signal now..

Not the ideal but its not getting disconnects
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 20:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
zGunBLADEz wrote:
Find funny i can connect to my 5ghz band just fine VHT80 and everything and not the 2.4ghz on my 8500 on the farthest place on my house..

That's mostly caused by the saturated 2.4 band ... you showed what a mess it was in previous 'site survey'.

In all honesty... and I mentioned this briefly, if you want a trouble free 2.4 network in that kind
of enviroment you would probably need to pick the cleanest channel, run on 20MHz width, and put a WAP in
every other room with power turned down to half what device is capable of or less. Trying to get one
device to reach as far as possible is why crowded areas can be a mess ... but yea it is cool to walk
accros the street and couple doors down and still hit your home network Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 20:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thats what im trying to get rid off the multiples AP. My plan was only one the 8500 its running awesome on the 5ghz band i must say.

Its either turn off 2.4ghz radio go full 5ghz... or make a shield around it and isolated interference from i dont need it..

Redirecting only where i want to cover.instead of omni.

Because i have to move it to the middle of the house instead of one end. Im planning to put it high almost on ceiling with a reflector blocking where im going to screw it in that way i can reflect the "interference" to his left side from where i dont need it as the house goes in a straight line like a big rectangle put it like that on a second floor. All the bedrooms are on the right side. So if i can block at least his left side and the up side im blocking half of the interference.
mikesal57
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:46    Post subject: Reply with quote
Getting my EA8500 tomorrow from Best Buy..
Looks like they are clearing them out...anyway

Will I be able to set this up as a Wireless Repeater?

That is , extending the wireless from main route and have wired and wireless clients connecting to it..

I have a FIOS N 2.4 only Router as the main one..

thxs
mrjcd
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
mikesal57 wrote:
Getting my EA8500 tomorrow from Best Buy..
Looks like they are clearing them out...anyway

Will I be able to set this up as a Wireless Repeater?

That is , extending the wireless from main route and have wired and wireless clients connecting to it..

I have a FIOS N 2.4 only Router as the main one..

thxs

You should explain your network setup in more detail so we can give some suggestions rather than guesses.

1. Buying an EA8500 to wirelessly bridge to anything less than its equal just seems silly.

2. I assume this FIOS device is some type modem/router so therefore it should be put in bridge mode
so you can let the EA8500 do what it does best..... be the main network router for your home or bussiness
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 17:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrjcd wrote:

2. I assume this FIOS device is some type modem/router so therefore it should be put in bridge mode
so you can let the EA8500 do what it does best..... be the main network router for your home or bussiness

Just a little Fios overview. Verizon Fios is FTTP for Residential and Business. The Fios deployments were mostly are limited to larger areas so they could target the existing cable customers. There is no modem, the Wan port is located on the ONT (optical network terminal) along with the Telco hand-off if used. The VZ branded router could either be provisioned on Ethernet or Coax. So that’s probably why he’s putting the bridge comment/question out there. In the early days most were provisioned on coax but with the faster speeds they are getting provisioned on Ethernet.

I don’t know what router Mike has but in the early days VZ used the ActionTec (which were junk) with the Verizon co-branded logo. The early ones were 802.11G then 802.11N, now they have another release made from another vendor which is gigabit Lan & Wan and 5ghz AC and all that which is supposedly better. We dumped Fios Verizon a few years ago.

There’s a good chance the reason he’s wants a custom config is if he is a TV customer or he don’t want to switch to Ethernet or change to a Moca bridge. What I do know is if he is NOT a TV customer he use whatever router he wants. In my case when I had Fios I used my own router with a Moca adapter to obtain the TV guide from the set top box but gave up the on screen Caller ID which was no big deal. I despised the Fios routers, they were horrible so that’s kind of how I ended up here.

On a side note the ActiionTec router were so bad we begged BS to build a dd-wrt release for us which he did back in 2007 or so, I still have my old ActionTec with dd-wrt. IIRC Sash was the point guy on the Actiontec dd-wrt project but BS was the one the ultimately did the upgrade. The only issue was the moca port was never enabled but we all knew that going in.

BTW my EA8500 is still cranking away as my primary router, just updated to the new Kong build over the weekend and all is good. Thanks you for your help with the EA8500 and other projects and thanks to Kong for his builds. All is good in dd-wrt land

Add/EDIT: on screen Caller ID


Last edited by 05dyna on Tue Jun 06, 2017 20:27; edited 1 time in total
mrjcd
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 18:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
05dyna wrote:
mrjcd wrote:

2. I assume this FIOS device is some type modem/router so therefore it should be put in bridge mode
so you can let the EA8500 do what it does best..... be the main network router for your home or bussiness

Just a little Fios overview. Verizon Fios is FTTP for Residential and Business. The Fios deployments were mostly are limited to larger areas so they could target the existing cable customers. There is no modem, the Wan port is located on the ONT (optical network terminal) along with the Telco hand-off if used. The VZ branded router could either be provisioned on Ethernet or Coax. So that’s probably why he’s putting the bridge comment/question out there. In the early days most were provisioned on coax but with the faster speeds they are getting provisioned on Ethernet.

I don’t know what router Mike has but in the early days VZ used the ActionTec (which were junk) with the Verizon co-branded logo. The early ones were 802.11G then 802.11N, now they have another release made from another vendor which is gigabit Lan & Wan and 5ghz AC and all that which is supposedly better. We dumped Fios Verizon a few years ago.

There’s a good chance the reason he’s wants a custom config is if he is a TV customer or he don’t want to switch to Ethernet or change to a Moca bridge. What I do know is if he is NOT a TV customer he use whatever router he wants. In my case when I had Fios I used my own router with a Moca adapter to obtain the TV guide from the set top box but gave up the on screen which was no big deal. I despised the Fios routers, they were horrible so that’s kind of how I ended up here.

On a side note the ActiionTec router were so bad we begged BS to build a dd-wrt release for us which he did back in 2007 or so, I still have my old ActionTec with dd-wrt. IIRC Sash was the point guy on the Actiontec dd-wrt project but BS was the one the ultimately did the upgrade. The only issue was the moca port was never enabled but we all knew that going in.

BTW my EA8500 is still cranking away as my primary router, just updated to the new Kong build over the weekend and all is good. Thanks you for your help with the EA8500 and other projects and thanks to Kong for his builds. All is good in dd-wrt land

ah that's good info ... I'm really partial to -
give me an ethernet port open to the public wild with no strings attached Razz

a better answer to the OP --
The EA8500 should perform ok in client mode and still do all your networking needs.
If the wireless on this FIOS will max your connection then the EA8500 should bridge to its 2.4 and do the same.
mikesal57
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:45    Post subject: Reply with quote
thxs guys..

dyna hit it on the head....
need Actiontec for TV but wanted the 8500 to handle all the wireless in the house

looks like a good choice for that

mike
zGunBLADEz
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:36    Post subject: Reply with quote
Finally got a chance to move the 8500 to the middle of the house in a corner where i have my ML110G7 server. Got rid of 2 APs well not really. Im using the EA6900 as a switch can turn on wifi but not needed. 2.4GHz its chaotic here so i have to use my WNDR4500 to use 2.4GHz better as it seems to handle it better than the rest of my routers.

So i have the 8500 right on middle of the house and the WNDR4500 at the rear end of the house bridged using 5GHz and transmitting @ 2.4GHz.

First pic is 5GHz farthest from the router on house.. out of 90m internet

Second 2.4ghz on the netgear as APs serving 2.4ghz band..

Now i need to test full potential once i put server up as i get more speeds out of that XD
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
Please make the pictures smaller.
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zGunBLADEz
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 14:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry about that as i upload them thru phone..

Was looking whats that 5th internal antenna for..

So according to this

https://us.hardware.info/reviews/6553/4/linksys-ea8500-review-flagship-for-everyone-qualcomm-mu-mimo
Quote:

We did not receive a clear answer, but Linksys confirmed that the internal antenna is only used for the 2.4 GHz band, 5 GHz is only used by the external antennas. We still do not know why Linksys has chosen to do this.


That antenna is the only 2.4ghz on this router and all other 4 external ones only serve 5ghz...

So this router would benefit with a external antenna mod to take that 2.4ghz out with a higher gain one .. thats why i barely get no bw, signal is fine on 2.4ghz on this router.
As a 5ghz router and vpn is a beast the 2.4ghz is lacking bad.

Order pieces and i also found a 4 antenna pack from a 7500 identical to the ones this router uses. Have to replace my 6900 as well so why not. One for the 8500 and the other 3 for the 6900.
zGunBLADEz
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:45    Post subject: Reply with quote
Have a question out of curiosity..

According to the link i posted up this router carry 2xQCA9980 which do 2.4GHz/5GHz so in theory you can select both bands in both configurations the question would be if is possible?

Like say having 1x2.4GHz (because you only have 1 antenna for 2.4GHz hardware wise and 2x5GHz you would brake 4xmimo or get some perf hit and only get 2 antennas for each 5GHz.

It is possible thru ddwrt put them both as 5ghz/5ghz band simultaneously. I guess you would get a perf hit as you loose 2 of the antennas of 5ghz on this type of configuration but it will be more versatile for some other uses. I would love to have that as a option tho.

Im wondering because i can use him as a wireless client bridge receiving at 5ghz and serving at 2.4ghz+5ghz as a Access point wirelessly​.

That would be the use i would gave him..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 13:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
DD-WRT v3.0-r32170M kongat (06/04/17)
Linux 3.18.55 #112 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jun 4 01:15:14 CEST 2017 armv7l
:~# uptime
17:27:54 up 6 days, 19:19, load average: 0.11, 0.05, 0.03
:~# date
Sat Jun 10 17:27:54 CDT 2017
Had no problems with this build.
Code:

bridge name          interfaces
  br0                vlan1
                     ath0
                     ath1
  br1                ath0.1
                     ath1.1

ath0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C0:56:27:06:39:FF 
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:19539346 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:31899433 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:5596832481 (5.2 GiB)  TX bytes:44551539229 (41.4 GiB)

ath0.1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C2:56:27:06:39:FF 
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:25455389 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:47079462 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:3411331746 (3.1 GiB)  TX bytes:67718727186 (63.0 GiB)

ath1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C0:56:27:06:3A:00 
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:9993737 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:14384930 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:4953977132 (4.6 GiB)  TX bytes:19740326652 (18.3 GiB)

ath1.1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C2:56:27:06:3A:00 
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1843898 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:3610132 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:276934849 (264.1 MiB)  TX bytes:4402484668 (4.0 GiB)

br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C0:56:27:06:39:FD 
          inet addr:10.72.28.13  Bcast:10.72.29.255  Mask:255.255.254.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:46226756 errors:0 dropped:146634 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:85661554 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:20940437590 (19.5 GiB)  TX bytes:119314604959 (111.1 GiB)

br0:0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C0:56:27:06:39:FD 
          inet addr:169.254.255.1  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1

br1       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C0:56:27:06:39:FD 
          inet addr:10.15.26.129  Bcast:10.15.26.191  Mask:255.255.255.192
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:26902602 errors:0 dropped:40722 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:49412750 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:3225366355 (3.0 GiB)  TX bytes:70945909662 (66.0 GiB)

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C0:56:27:06:39:FD 
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:154499140 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:116153544 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:2850786239 (2.6 GiB)  TX bytes:1826980129 (1.7 GiB)
          Interrupt:255

imq0      Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 
          UP RUNNING NOARP  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:121539902 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:121045175 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:30
          RX bytes:3701464075 (3.4 GiB)  TX bytes:2966404870 (2.7 GiB)

imq1      Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 
          UP RUNNING NOARP  MTU:16000  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:11000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback 
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:65536  Metric:1
          RX packets:2946 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:2946 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:537353 (524.7 KiB)  TX bytes:537353 (524.7 KiB)

tun2      Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 
          inet addr:10.172.128.241  P-t-P:10.172.128.241  Mask:255.255.255.240
          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:426979 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:714265 errors:0 dropped:286 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
          RX bytes:72996857 (69.6 MiB)  TX bytes:870949004 (830.6 MiB)

vlan1     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr C0:56:27:06:39:FD 
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:22484330 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:46274853 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:16916099421 (15.7 GiB)  TX bytes:62511515920 (58.2 GiB)

vlan2     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx 
          inet addr:96.xx.xxx.xxx  Bcast:96.xxx.xxx.xxx  Mask:255.255.255.224
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:54660356 errors:0 dropped:19904 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:69878691 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:168553001622 (156.9 GiB)  TX bytes:11865294065 (11.0 GiB)



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New release of this build
DD-WRT v3.0-r32170M kongat (06/11/17)
Linux 3.18.55 #120 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jun 11 11:50:37 CEST 2017 armv7l


Auto Channel fixed.
Reset router now has WiFi default password for both bands.
Same as Linksys stock -- password on bottom of router

http://www.desipro.de/ddwrt/K3-AC-IPQ806X/
zGunBLADEz
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 18:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
With that build I get 90mbps on 5ghz no problem. But it have the behavior on wan to lan speed max at 50mbps.
jsuresh
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 21:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just picked a new EA8500 from walmart clearance for $69. The box has Model No: EA8500-WM , 8830-22537 Rev A00.

Anyone know if this is pre-encrypt fw version or post-encrypt fw version?
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