Reading that Tp-ink is starting to lock down there firmware

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neogx148
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:29    Post subject: Reading that Tp-ink is starting to lock down there firmware Reply with quote
http://www.myce.com/news/tp-link-has-started-to-lock-its-routers-to-prevent-installing-dd-wrt-78623/

http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=5574003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:44    Post subject: Re: Reading that Tp-ink is starting to lock down there firmw Reply with quote
neogx148 wrote:
http://www.myce.com/news/tp-link-has-started-to-lock-its-routers-to-prevent-installing-dd-wrt-78623/

http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=5574003


TP-Links excuse is really bad, I don't want to blame the FCC for any lock down (also critics can argue, that this was intentional), their rules don't imply that you have to lock down the router completely.

It is possible to technically fulfill the FCC rules while allowing alternative software. Of course this means, that the customer has to pay more. I'm sure the customer will pay more if there is a benefit.

If all manufactures lock down their stuff, then oss developers can just stop their work, you see a lot of companies depend on the work of opensource developers, e.g. if openwrt stops their work, thousands of companies have to do the dirty work of maintaining things themself, this raise their costs a lot more and have additional sde effects, less security etc.

Anyway this is a chance for other companies to make money with it. Just wait for all manufacturers to lock down their shit, then come up with a product, that complies with fcc, but allows modifications and suddenly all oss developers will work and improve your code, pretty smart.

See Asus, 50% of the dirty work is done by the community around rmerlin. Save them lots of money.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 13:26    Post subject: Reply with quote
Too much of drama reporting on this. There is no strong cryptographical lock in TP-Link firmware.

TP-Link tag their US firmware differently than the worldwide version so that US users can not flash the worldwide version.

dd-wrt has firmware for both versions.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 14:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOM wrote:
Too much of drama reporting on this. There is no strong cryptographical lock in TP-Link firmware.

TP-Link tag their US firmware differently than the worldwide version so that US users can not flash the worldwide version.

not really, you'll have to inform yourself a bit more...

the new factory firmwares released by tp-link around the end of last year do not allow to flash back to previous versions of stock firmwares, nor they allow flashing of dd-wrt factory-to-ddwrt files, be that US or worldwide versions.

these new firmwares give error 18005, which is not the result of changed header or anything like that, it's some other type of "lockdown" method (the header hasn't changed in fact).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
GreyDoc wrote:
LOM wrote:
Too much of drama reporting on this. There is no strong cryptographical lock in TP-Link firmware.

TP-Link tag their US firmware differently than the worldwide version so that US users can not flash the worldwide version.

not really, you'll have to inform yourself a bit more...

the new factory firmwares released by tp-link around the end of last year do not allow to flash back to previous versions of stock firmwares, nor they allow flashing of dd-wrt factory-to-ddwrt files, be that US or worldwide versions.

these new firmwares give error 18005, which is not the result of changed header or anything like that, it's some other type of "lockdown" method (the header hasn't changed in fact).


I don't believe it until I see it myself and I have not seen any such lock.
That one user or two has problem with flashing doesn't mean that the firmware is locked.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOM wrote:
GreyDoc wrote:
LOM wrote:
Too much of drama reporting on this. There is no strong cryptographical lock in TP-Link firmware.

TP-Link tag their US firmware differently than the worldwide version so that US users can not flash the worldwide version.

not really, you'll have to inform yourself a bit more...

the new factory firmwares released by tp-link around the end of last year do not allow to flash back to previous versions of stock firmwares, nor they allow flashing of dd-wrt factory-to-ddwrt files, be that US or worldwide versions.

these new firmwares give error 18005, which is not the result of changed header or anything like that, it's some other type of "lockdown" method (the header hasn't changed in fact).


I don't believe it until I see it myself and I have not seen any such lock.
That one user or two has problem with flashing doesn't mean that the firmware is locked.

well, for the non-believer.. http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1011752#1011752
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:39    Post subject: Reply with quote
GreyDoc wrote:
well, for the non-believer.. http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1011752#1011752


Which is a Linksys device and not TP-Link.
Not being able to downgrade has happened before (Netgear especially) but was always because of firmware format change and never intended as a region lock.

You do really grasp for any straw you see and make more of it than there actually is in it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 18:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
LOM wrote:
GreyDoc wrote:
well, for the non-believer.. http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1011752#1011752

Which is a Linksys device and not TP-Link.
Not being able to downgrade has happened before (Netgear especially) but was always because of firmware format change and never intended as a region lock.

You do really grasp for any straw you see and make more of it than there actually is in it.

I really don't.. just pointing out the fact that an increasing number of devices are starting to be locked down one way or another.

if still in doubt, Linksys stock firmware encryption has been confirmed by Kong :
http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1011798#1011798
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 20:08    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyone know how to mod the region code to load EU firmware on a US unit?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
coolspot wrote:
Anyone know how to mod the region code to load EU firmware on a US unit?

What exact router model and what is the current firmware on it ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:08    Post subject: Reply with quote
KrypteX wrote:
coolspot wrote:
Anyone know how to mod the region code to load EU firmware on a US unit?

What exact router model and what is the current firmware on it ?


I just picked up the TP-Link RE450/Canada model - uses US firmware, can't load the EU version of the firmware which has more functionality (i.e. Access Point). Pretty it's running RE450(US)_V1_151203_US.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 18:46    Post subject: Reply with quote
i have a TP-LINK RE580D that is region locked to the USA,
Can somebody help me make it work in Europe?
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