Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 146 Location: Pineville, North Carolina - USA
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 14:36 Post subject:
hans_lt wrote:
If Linksys is selling buggy firmware, company should be ready to spend some money on additional expenses - shipping costs and so on. Firmware is buggy at least by not allowing to use standart recovery procedure - tftping original software. Silly mistake by limiting upload file size to 4Mb.
Yes. But then they never intended for us to flash these either. Its not like they told us that the routers are flashable. So, if one bricks it, IMHO, they should try to recover it or dump it but sending it back to Linksys or the store is not cool imho. Stunts like these are the ones that drive prices up for ALL of us.
If its a legit failure, by all means use the warranty and return policy and all other avenues but if you are flashing and brick it, then that neither Linksys' fault not the store's fault.
Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 146 Location: Pineville, North Carolina - USA
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 14:39 Post subject:
timbro wrote:
dvpatel wrote:
To the folks recommending option 1. Here is a novel idea. How about taking responsibility for your actions v/s sticking a store with a dud which YOU caused due to YOUR fault for not doing your homework before flashing?
Remember. What goes around comes around and Karma is a biatch.
Making mistakes is how you learn. I encourage this young fellow to try and get this router back up and running which may help others in the future.
I agree with that. But making mistakes and then sticking the store or linksys with the bill is not cool. The fellow should recover the router with the JTAG or Serial ports v/s returning it is what I am saying.
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 19:41 Post subject: not returning it
i agree with all that......i guess that's not fair, and i wouldn't like it if someone did it to me.
now, i have a proposal. i put the router, the supplies and everything and, all together we at least, find a way for people to get out of trouble once they flash their router, wrt610n and it goes bad.
With that i mean a simple guide (hans_it was ok with it) so on one side research keeps moving forward and we ALL can test, on the other side, if stuff goes wrong we can go back to the initial point.
Now what kind of header do i need for the WRT610N, i have a good electronics store really close, i live in italy. I will try to find it, and then i also need to know how do i connect the wires from the DKU-5 to the connector that goes on the header.
Once we fail-proof this procedure, it can be done with specs for the router commonly used so whoever ends up in deep mud can recover.
Sounds good?
Thanks anyways to anyone willing to help.
I am humble enough to admit i don't understand anything about this but hell, i will put all that i can to achieve a positive result!!
Joined: 02 Jan 2009 Posts: 61 Location: Asheville NC, USA
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:44 Post subject:
dvpatel wrote:
hans_lt wrote:
If Linksys is selling buggy firmware, company should be ready to spend some money on additional expenses - shipping costs and so on. Firmware is buggy at least by not allowing to use standart recovery procedure - tftping original software. Silly mistake by limiting upload file size to 4Mb.
Yes. But then they never intended for us to flash these either. Its not like they told us that the routers are flashable. So, if one bricks it, IMHO, they should try to recover it or dump it but sending it back to Linksys or the store is not cool imho. Stunts like these are the ones that drive prices up for ALL of us.
If its a legit failure, by all means use the warranty and return policy and all other avenues but if you are flashing and brick it, then that neither Linksys' fault not the store's fault.
I agree that sending it back as defective is grimy but I disagree with what you said about them not saying the router is flashable. Linksys implies the router is flashable by providing the capability in their firmware, not disabling the tftp listen on boot and providing the firmware on the support section of their website. If only one firmware should be expected to be successsfully flashed to the device it would be the stock one. _________________ Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici-
"By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe"
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:29 Post subject: upload
sorry but i disagree on something...linksys may even give people the chance to flash the FW but....BUT it's like a "technically you can, practically you can't" because you can't flash over 4MB to the thing..
yeah tried to but it stops at 51%...looks like 7.1 MB is too much
Am I missing something. (YES). Can't mega (almost 8mb) be flashed with tftp?
Well my router is bricked, and via TFTP can't flash over 4MB. It always cancels the transfer at 51% of the transfer. the thing is that i have to jtag it and recover it like that. now i am figuring out if i can use the dku-5 nokia cable usb and 3,5 jack to build the serial or i have to use a jtag cable. the serials seems easier to build. what do you think?any advice?
TO HANS_IT
should i use the dku-5 or ca-42 they say they are about the same only dku-5 has 5 wires and ca-42 has only 3 thicker ones?
And..i don't have a multimeter to check, can i arbitrary give to red and white tx - rx and black is the GND? Should i attach anything to the 3.3V on the board?
thanks!
Corrected:
Nokia DKU-5
Uses FBus, so the cable contains a serial to USB converter. Limited to 115200 bps.
Nokia CA-42
Newer model of DKU-5. For FBus, but behaves like a true USB device. Limited to 230400 bps
Since CA-42 is not serial to USB converter, i do not recomend that one.
On PC side we will use program called "Hyperterminal". It works with serial ports, not USB.
About DKU-5:
Important pop-port pins are 6,7,8 (or 2, it's the same as 8 ), look at diagram.
Pop-port pin 6 - FBus Rx/USB D+ .
Pop-port pin 7 FBus Tx/USB D- .
Pop-port pin 8 GND Data GND
Pop-port pin 2 GND Charger ground (Most likely that one is not connected on ca-42)
So, pin 8 or pin 2 from pop-port should be connected to GND on WRT610N bord.
pin 7 from pop-port (TX) - to RX on WRT610N bord.
pin 6 from pop-port (RX) - to TX on WRT610N board.
Nokia DKU-2 is listed as "Straight Pop-Port to USB cable". I doubt that it works, since on PC side that cable must be recognized as serial port.
If you don't have multimeter, don't trust colors, look where each wire is conected on pop-port. On my DKu-5 colors were:
Pop-port pin 8 - GND wire color -black.
Pop-port pin 7 - RX wire color - white.
Pop-port pin 6 - TX wire color - blue.
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