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LrdShaper
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have a SheevaPlug devkit which is a plugcomputer that also runs linux.
It's got a 1.2Ghz CPU, 512MB DDR2 Ram, 512Mb internal flash, 1GigE port,
1USB port, 1 SDCard port, and a jtag interface via usb for recovery.
Retails for 99USD

I'm currently using it for:
* Squid + Privoxy (transparent proxy via my WRT350N)
* Tor + Privoxy
* PDF Printing over the network using CUPS-PDF
* Print server
* rtorrent (FTPd to my ReadyNAS NV+ after download is complete)
* Subversion
* Email server
* TFTP Server
* NTP Server
* RSS Downloader & RSS Server
* Podcast & Vidcast downloader
* Asterisk (serving 3 PAP2T units and 2 SPA3102 units)
* Samba
* VSFTPD
* USB Webcam
* Cross-compiler for DD-WRT, OpenWRT, PSP, PS2, ReadyNAS
* Daily incremental backups of my windows machines (simple bash script to WOL, mount drive, backup using rsync, shutdown windows box after backup completes and move to next computer on the network)
* Nagios to monitor other devices (NSLU2, Xbox, WRT150N, WRT350N, among others)
* Apache + MYSQL
* APCUPSD UPS Monitoring (When UPS battery gets low, will shutdown other devices on the network before shutting down itself)

I currently have it running Debian and soon it will completely replace my
NSLU2 and Xbox after I move all applications/services to the Sheevalug.
The Xbox will then go to our bedroom after I install XBMC on it.

Not as cheap as Radioman's NAS solution but I've been on the lookout for a NSLU2 replacement with more power for years and I opted for this.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
Radioman193 wrote:


with this device i KNOW ya can use it with atleast 14 2TB drives.


i just i just ordered my first 6 of 15 Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5 TB drives.


LOL, you really want to use 15 USB drives with such a device. HAHAHA! You know that your USB-devices will take approx. 7W to 10W for each device, idle and drive motor stopped! If I would plan such usage, I would use some appropriate equipment. Apart form safer enclosing of the drives (real case), it would use less power and has more speed using a single PSU with a very cheap x86 CPU. I do not think using more than 2 drives on such a small device is wise. If you're short on money you could assemble such a cheap computer designed as NAS for 250 EUR (new parts, not ebay used ones).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:51    Post subject: Reply with quote
UMM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

your Not talking to a Dumb fool.

I Know what im doing.
Do you??

i use these drives for other things to.

Hot swap them from pc to pc
i swap them from my FTA Dvrs
my netbooks
The smaller one has a Divx/Xvid Decoder with 15 pin SVGA , S-video ,RGB and has 2 usb 2.0 host ports for up to a 10TB Divx /Mp3 Player.
i say 10 cause thats all the drives of that size i could try at that time.
hence i can use them for EVERYTHING
its called a 175watt Power supply .
175watt in the first bank
and another 175 in the other with "Smart Power"
and building 4 more

the First drive bank is one i built here.

Top that.
Cool



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:19    Post subject: Reply with quote
gruenesAlien wrote:
LOL, you really want to use 15 USB drives with such a device. HAHAHA! You know that your USB-devices will take approx. 7W to 10W for each device, idle and drive motor stopped! If I would plan such usage, I would use some appropriate equipment. Apart form safer enclosing of the drives (real case), it would use less power and has more speed using a single PSU with a very cheap x86 CPU. I do not think using more than 2 drives on such a small device is wise. If you're short on money you could assemble such a cheap computer designed as NAS for 250 EUR (new parts, not ebay used ones).


Do you realize that all 3.5in enclosures come with ext. power adapter and don't use USB power? All 7 port USB hubs come with ext. power adapter that is able to supply 500ma x 7 ports. By usb standard 500ma is maximum any usb device can request from a single usb port => all 2.5 inch enclosed drives will never draw more than 0.5A from USB port.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:41    Post subject: Reply with quote
Radioman193 wrote:

I Know what im doing.
Do you??


No, I don't know what you do, and I do think that's good Razz All I know is that you just advertised you USB-to-LAN-Box with 15+ HDDS. I may have put two many "implies" into you post (stupid me Shocked ).

@ m00nman: There are no 2.5 HDDs with 1.5Tb available now. I do know that each HDD-USB-Casing has a extra PSU port and normally an extra PSU. AFAIK there exists 2.5inch drives that are be happy with only one USB-port, for sure there exists 2.5inch drives that need y-cables plugged in 2 USB-ports to get enough power.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 13:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
There's no difference between the things it can do as they all run Linux and all have the same interfaces. This Sheevaplug seems to me the most powerful but I do like to have the HD as one device.
I do hope it has a S-ATA interface instead of USB.

You need to have external HD's (with an extra power supply) for the ogre and a complete setup with 2 external disks will become messy (although I doubt it will stand out Wink ).
I also think the WD can be had for less, so in the end we're talking about a $10~$15 price difference. I think it's worth it.

I'm just giving the arguments which got me buying the Western Digital. Not everything about the WD is positive. It has a gigabit interface but its speed is barely faster than 100 Mbit.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 15:58    Post subject: Reply with quote
frater did you put that nas-central firmware on worldbook ? can you tell how ?
i noticed there are like 2 or 3 files to download and first repartition drives, looks complicated, no instructions on website and no help on forums
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 19:47    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, I'm not a GUI-guy.
I'm installing everything from the console and wrote a script for the whitelight to replace busybox for all the tools.
I have the bluering (32MB RAM) and the whitelight (128 MB RAM).

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 19:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
Radioman193 wrote:
Arrow oh yes THIS is SEXY
Not not some plastic hard drive enclosure! Exclamation


I'm very uncomfortable with the pic.. How did you get a picture of my best friends wife?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 20:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
frater wrote:
I have the bluering (32MB RAM) and the whitelight (128 MB RAM).




???

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 20:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
DHC_DarkShadow wrote:
frater wrote:
I have the bluering (32MB RAM) and the whitelight (128 MB RAM).

???

It was a reply to uncle_bob
There are 2 models. The old one has leds in the form of a ring which lights up on activity. The newer model has white leds in a row.

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Radioman193
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:21    Post subject: Reply with quote
gruenesAlien wrote:
Radioman193 wrote:

I Know what im doing.
Do you??


No, I don't know what you do, and I do think that's good Razz All I know is that you just advertised you USB-to-LAN-Box with 15+ HDDS. I may have put two many "implies" into you post (stupid me Shocked ).

@ m00nman: There are no 2.5 HDDs with 1.5Tb available now. I do know that each HDD-USB-Casing has a extra PSU port and normally an extra PSU. AFAIK there exists 2.5inch drives that are be happy with only one USB-port, for sure there exists 2.5inch drives that need y-cables plugged in 2 USB-ports to get enough power.


I cut the third usb plug off NEVER have needed that is for laptops that cant supply the proper current off just 1 usb port.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
barryware wrote:
Radioman193 wrote:
Arrow oh yes THIS is SEXY
Not not some plastic hard drive enclosure! Exclamation


I'm very uncomfortable with the pic.. How did you get a picture of my best friends wife?


lol
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
frater wrote:
No, I'm not a GUI-guy.
I'm installing everything from the console and wrote a script for the whitelight to replace busybox for all the tools.
I have the bluering (32MB RAM) and the whitelight (128 MB RAM).


you dont need to use the GUI
you can do all types of scripts
and you can replace most of the things you want.
and add alot more.
Without Multit drive partition isues

with 32megs of ram .
*upgrade in the works.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:18    Post subject: Reply with quote
frater wrote:
No, I'm not a GUI-guy.
I'm installing everything from the console and wrote a script for the whitelight to replace busybox for all the tools.
I have the bluering (32MB RAM) and the whitelight (128 MB RAM).


you mean worldbook factory firmware allows to telnet or ssh ?
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