Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 19:27 Post subject: Re: Need help connecting a modem/router and a DDWRT router
GeeTek wrote:
yzy-oui-fi wrote:
Why did you do that?
enable it
You prefer DHCP which expires and renews all the time and sometimes gets stuck and confused, when static is solid, reliable and never expires ?
Shame Shame Shame on you Eze Wifi !
'faire honte à; !!!
:)
If our friend is a newbie, the easier way to begin with a fine settings is to unchange as much as he can, then, when every thing goes i could try to fixe is Ip and other details.
Out of box with this kind of network it should work great. So I prefer to start from basics and then go further.
If you want to say "Shame on you" in french you must say "honte sur toi" "faire honte à" is non sens here ;)
Note: i always prefer to use dhcp even if set some statics leases, this is the best way for your client to be sure the link is truelly established with main router.
If you fix the wan ip to the seccond router and disconnect the main router (on a wired architecture) you will not have any information about it on the seccond router.
With dhcp server you will have information from both sides. This is helpfull if your client our repeater Router is 2 or 3 kms distant from the main router (sorry i'll often do outdoor networks)
another interesting point is that if for any reason you have to change the ip range on a network you just have to work on one device.
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 22:13 Post subject: Re: Need help connecting a modem/router and a DDWRT router
yzy-oui-fi wrote:
If our friend is a newbie, the easier way to begin with a fine settings is to unchange as much as he can, then, when every thing goes i could try to fixe is Ip and other details.
Since he already knows how to disable DHCP, he is not a beginner. He already knows that DHCP is for pussies, and he is trying not to be a pussy. I am only trying to help him not be a pussy.
yzy-oui-fi wrote:
If you want to say "Shame on you" in french you must say "honte sur toi" "faire honte à" is non sens here
Sorry, your french is definitely much better than mine. The online translator had 3 choices, and I picked the wrong one. I'll try a different website next time.
yzy-oui-fi wrote:
Note: i always prefer to use dhcp even if set some statics leases, this is the best way for your client to be sure the link is truelly established with main router.
If you fix the wan ip to the seccond router and disconnect the main router (on a wired architecture) you will not have any information about it on the seccond router.
With dhcp server you will have information from both sides. This is helpfull if your client our repeater Router is 2 or 3 kms distant from the main router (sorry i'll often do outdoor networks)
another interesting point is that if for any reason you have to change the ip range on a network you just have to work on one device.
All of that is good if you have a large network that is changing all the time. He only has two little routers connected with a cable. I don't think your reasons apply to him very much. Remember, he is just a beginner....
yzy-oui-fi wrote:
Bart is known as a skateboard Guru...For professionnal network he have to go back to school!
Bart never heard about statics leases ?
Perhaps Bart never manage a 200 Clients network, thus he will prefer DHCP.
Oh, I see. That is all very true. Bart did go to school actually, but he was doing naughty things when he was supposed to be in class, and now he has no class.
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 22:40 Post subject: Re: Need help connecting a modem/router and a DDWRT router
GeeTek wrote:
All of that is good if you have a large network that is changing all the time. He only has two little routers connected with a cable. I don't think your reasons apply to him very much. Remember, he is just a beginner....
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 23:32 Post subject:
yzy-oui-fi wrote:
hey....Calm down we are not on war! ;)
i was just kidding like you do with me !
I know Ezy. I am still playing around too. I just finished my 10th beer and found out that two are missing somewhere, and that is making me pretend to be upset. What really upsets me is that now I have to wait 3 hours to go get some more !
It is good to have choices. In my original post I almost told him to turn DHCP back on, but I decided to give him a little excersize. Now that we are both helping him, he can either do it the French way or the Red-Neck way. Only he can decide which way is best for his system.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:42 Post subject: Re: Need help connecting a modem/router and a DDWRT router
LOL, funny thread. Im not a beginner but maybe not that far off! Messing around with multiple routers is new to me :)
A little bit more about my setup:
The IP is set at:
GL is 192.168.1.2
WAG is 192.168.1.1
MacMini is 192.168.1.4
MacBook is 192.168.1.8
DHCP
A couple of things:
GeeTek wrote:
On the GL, set the WAN port for static IP. Give it the address 192.168.2.2, subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and a Gateway and DNS setting of 192.168.2.1
Done!
But this would only work if I have the cable from the WAG plugged in to the Internet (WAN) port on the GL right? Im not getting any internet at all when I do that, so as I state below, Ive had to connect it to port 1.
yzy-oui-fi wrote:
Why did you do that?
enable it
then plug the Wrt54gl from is Wan side(Internet) to your modem.
Every thing should work great.
Nope!
If I connect Port 1 of the WAG to the Internet port of the GL using the included blue cable Internet doesnt work (wired or wirelessly connected to the GL - still works when connected to the WAG though)
Is there a setting I have to enable to make this work?
If instead I connect Port 1 of the WAG to Port 1 of the GL I get wireless internet on the MacBook but not wired on the MacMini (Using DHCP gives 169.254.137.168 so tried a couple of different IP addresses manually - currently 192.168.1.4)
GeeTek wrote:
You prefer DHCP which expires and renews all the time and sometimes gets stuck and confused, when static is solid, reliable and never expires ?
I cant get the internet to work at all unless I have DHCP enabled on the WAG. If I disable it doesnt work.
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:09 Post subject: Re: Need help connecting a modem/router and a DDWRT router
RandmTask wrote:
LOL, funny thread. Im not a beginner but maybe not that far off! Messing around with multiple routers is new to me :)
A little bit more about my setup:
The IP is set at:
GL is 192.168.1.2
WAG is 192.168.1.1
MacMini is 192.168.1.4
MacBook is 192.168.1.8
DHCP
A couple of things:
GeeTek wrote:
On the GL, set the WAN port for static IP. Give it the address 192.168.2.2, subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and a Gateway and DNS setting of 192.168.2.1
Done!
But this would only work if I have the cable from the WAG plugged in to the Internet (WAN) port on the GL right? Im not getting any internet at all when I do that, so as I state below, Ive had to connect it to port 1.
yzy-oui-fi wrote:
Why did you do that?
enable it
then plug the Wrt54gl from is Wan side(Internet) to your modem.
Every thing should work great.
Nope!
If I connect Port 1 of the WAG to the Internet port of the GL using the included blue cable Internet doesnt work (wired or wirelessly connected to the GL - still works when connected to the WAG though)
Is there a setting I have to enable to make this work?
If instead I connect Port 1 of the WAG to Port 1 of the GL I get wireless internet on the MacBook but not wired on the MacMini (Using DHCP gives 169.254.137.168 so tried a couple of different IP addresses manually - currently 192.168.1.4)
GeeTek wrote:
You prefer DHCP which expires and renews all the time and sometimes gets stuck and confused, when static is solid, reliable and never expires ?
I cant get the internet to work at all unless I have DHCP enabled on the WAG. If I disable it doesnt work.
Im probably missing something stupid :)
cheers!
did i really understand what i read???
you connect port 1 to port 1 ...you mean lan to lan?
so Gl should act as "router" routing mode without any dhcp or dnsmasq services running and Wan side should be set to disable. Gateway and DNS Field should fit the WAG IP.
