Use Netgear Router As Repeater

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chalupabatman
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:32    Post subject: Use Netgear Router As Repeater Reply with quote
When setting up a router with DDWRT for use as a repeater can you use the same SSID as your primary router? What I am wanting is, I have a few dead zones in my home and want to be able to provide wireless signal to those areas by setting up a router (same model as "primary") with the same SSID broadcasting in order for mobile devices to connect to when the signal of primary router gets down to 1 bar or non-existant.

(I want to use this for wired connection as well as extend my wireless signal)

Is it possible to use same SSID? -- I know this is a few years old, but will these tactics still work?

https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/9177/how-use-an-old-dd-wrt-router-as-a-repeater/
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mrjcd
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:05    Post subject: Reply with quote
You say you have same model routers -- I would use WDS.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WDS_REPEATER_on_QCA
chalupabatman
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrjcd wrote:
You say you have same model routers -- I would use WDS.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WDS_REPEATER_on_QCA


Thank you for that tutorial link.

I have a question, reading it the first setup states
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First (root) will host internet and will have local IP 192.168.2.5 and the second will have local IP 192.168.2.25


In my instance my root (primary router) has the following settings IP of 192.168.5.1 and Starting IP is 192.168.5.2
Ending IP is 192.168.5.250 - so I would set my second router to local IP 192.168.5.251

Is that accurate?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 13:03    Post subject: Reply with quote
chalupabatman wrote:

In my instance my root (primary router) has the following settings IP of 192.168.5.1 and Starting IP is 192.168.5.2
Ending IP is 192.168.5.250 - so I would set my second router to local IP 192.168.5.251

Is that accurate?

Yes that would work fine.
Any IP within same subnet will be fine and yes usually best to set it outside DHCP range just to be sure IP is not already being used.
chalupabatman
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 13:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrjcd wrote:
chalupabatman wrote:

In my instance my root (primary router) has the following settings IP of 192.168.5.1 and Starting IP is 192.168.5.2
Ending IP is 192.168.5.250 - so I would set my second router to local IP 192.168.5.251

Is that accurate?

Yes that would work fine.
Any IP within same subnet will be fine and yes usually best to set it outside DHCP range just to be sure IP is not already being used.


Also, I am running stock firmware on my root router so I do not have the option to
Quote:

Access Point (root router) AP Basic Wireless config:
In Wireless->Basic Settings:
1. Set Wireless Mode to "WDS AP".


Is it possible to do this set-up w/o having DDWRT installed on both routers? For example, one of my routers is v2 (which DDWRT is not capable of running on)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 13:34    Post subject: Reply with quote
chalupabatman wrote:
...Also, I am running stock firmware on my root router so I do not have the option to ...
Shocked
I reckon you better stick to a repeater bridge then.
Client Bridge (Routed) on the atheros boxes --
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge
If dual band router you can bridge either one of the wireless interface and connect your devices to the other .. works well.
Or you can create a VAP on same wireless interface you are bridged with and connect to it.
There is some limitation with these type bridges and bi-directional traffic.
Normal internet usage should be fine but services/servers you might put behind a repeater/client bridge will
likely have trouble broadcasting to other segments of your subnet --

Any further help with the setup you need to tell us what router & model and what dd-wrt build.

good luck

EDIT:
use only intructions in this section http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge#Qualcomm_Atheros
chalupabatman
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 13:42    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrjcd wrote:
chalupabatman wrote:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge

Any further help with the setup you need to tell us what router & model and what dd-wrt build.

good luck


Looking at step 6
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Open the Wireless -> Basic Settings tab
Physical Interface Section
Wireless Mode : Repeater Bridge


Does that equate to Client Bridge (Routed) on Firmware DD-WRT v24-sp2 (03/25/13) - the Repeater Bridge is not an option

My two routers are Netgear WNDR4300 as secondary and Negear WNDR4300 v2 as primary, I have not been able to find a DDWRT install for v2 which is why I am having such a hard time.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 13:56    Post subject: Reply with quote
chalupabatman wrote:
.....Does that equate to Client Bridge (Routed) on Firmware DD-WRT v24-sp2 (03/25/13) - the Repeater Bridge is not an option
..... Netgear WNDR4300 as secondary and Negear WNDR4300 v2 as primary, I have not been able to find a DDWRT install for v2 which is why I am having such a hard time.

Use only guide in my previous post edit.
AFAIK there is still NO dd-wrt support WNDR4300v2 Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 14:07    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrjcd wrote:
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Use only guide in my previous post edit.
AFAIK there is still NO dd-wrt support WNDR4300v2 Crying or Very sad


My primary has the below settings for Wireless Network Mode
Quote:

2.4GHZ network Up to 300MBPS
5.0GHZ network Up to 450MBPS


For my DDWRT set-up which Wireless Network Mode does that equate to
Quote:

Mixed
B-Only
G-Only
BG-Mixed
NG-Mixed
N-Only (2.4GHZ)


And for channel width --> For my primary I have
Quote:

2.4GHZ Channel 10
5.0GHZ Channel 161


DDWRT shows
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Dynamic (20/40 MHZ)
Turbo (40 MHZ)
Full (20 MHZ)
Half (10 MHZ)
Quarter (5 MHZ)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote
Try NG-Mixed
Not familiar Turbo (40 MHZ) but assume that would be HT40 so that's what I would use.
If not working well you could then try dynamic.
A lot of this is just tinker with it till it suits you -

I think tatsuya46 has that router. He may come along and give you good pointers.

i must shuffle off
good luck -
chalupabatman
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 14:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
@mrjcd Thank you for the help. I'll await @tatsuya46 to see if any additional insight can be provided.
chalupabatman
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 22:40    Post subject: Reply with quote
I followed the tutorial here http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge#Qualcomm_Atheros but I do not see the SSID broadcasting and any wired device I attempt to connect is unable to function either.

Any other thoughts?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 0:19    Post subject: Reply with quote
chalupabatman wrote:
I followed the tutorial here http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Repeater_Bridge#Qualcomm_Atheros but I do not see the SSID broadcasting and any wired device I attempt to connect is unable to function either.

Any other thoughts?

do the simple first --
Should have this device alone attacthed to your computer.
Computer should have static IP set same subnet as the device so you can communicate to setup.

SSID for the bridge must match exactly as host router.
Security must match exactly.
Both need to be using WPA2 AES (OEM firmware may say WPA2 PKS AES .. that's ok)
Setup/basic setup >> gateway IP should be set to acutual gateway of this subnet (I assume that is the host router IP)

also main setup
WAN should be disabled
DHCP should be disabled
and uncheck anything under that which might still be showing.

Setup/ advanced routing
set operation mode to 'Router'

'Services' page (disable) uncheck DNSMasq

on Wireless page should be
(Client Bridge Routed)
'Default GW Mode' set to manual and put same IP you use on main setup page (gateway IP)

Check page Status/Wireless see if it is connected. If so set computer back to DHCP and should get IP from main.
If so see if have internet access. If so then can create VAP for wireless devices to connect.

Got to make a stable bridge before you worry about other. If can't do that try disable security on both routers to see if that is the problem ....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
mrjcd wrote:

Check page Status/Wireless see if it is connected.


How would I check to see if it is connected from the status/wireless page? What would be the indicator?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 18:51    Post subject: Reply with quote
BUMP --> is there anything else I can do to get this set-up as a repeater?
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