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TXUSA
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
If anyone has trouble getting the stock firmware to install again... you might have to load a hex editor and open the Netgear firmware and adjust the board ID to the one your router has... I haven’t checked lately but the one that Netgear posted as a download for the v2 actually was the same file as the v1 version (ID ending in 00, which did not work for my v2).


Already committed a change that accepts T00. I just checked netgear fw page an itseems like they use T00 for all of these models. Thus they have a unified fw for R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3. Does anyone have the boardid from the R6700v3 at hand?

This also meas, we do not need different chk files for the R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3, we just need to use T00 header for all of them.


Strange, because I loaded the Netgear firmware over serial connection after I bricked my v2 and it would not accept the 00 firmware (unless it was some freaky coincidence). It flashed without a problem after I changed the header to 30.


TFTP proably does not accept it, as netgears broadcom cfe checks the header to the one burned in flash. But firmware can do whatever it wants. But anyways this is really shitty, as netgear only offers T00 chks. I downloaded all of them today. Means, if you want to tftp factory fw you can't unless you know that you have to modify the header. I guess offering different chk's won't be as confusing, and inside it doesn't matter, we can just accept the T00 and it is the same netgear fw anyways.


Das habe ich mir schon gedacht Smile I have used DDWRT for years and flashed and unbricked a lot. It’s a learning experience. Yes all firmwares have the 00, I figured that out pretty quick when I loaded them in the hex editor. I agree that tftp probably isn’t working unless the header is changed to the necessary value. It shouldn’t be a problem for the v1, if I’m not mistaken the board ID there is 00 anyway. Thanks again for your great work over the years... (fanboy moment haha). And I can always appreciate a fellow German.
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TXUSA
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
<Kong> wrote:
There will be proper R6400V2 builds published this weekend.
Already fixed the detection and added a few improvements and currently testing it.


Can you give me a quick explanation what the different v2 firmwares mean in the desipro test folder ? What does the v2OTP version stand for ?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
There will be proper R6400V2 builds published this weekend.
Already fixed the detection and added a few improvements and currently testing it.


Can you give me a quick explanation what the different v2 firmwares mean in the desipro test folder ? What does the v2OTP version stand for ?


https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1139772#1139772
TXUSA
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 14:13    Post subject: Reply with quote
Muzeneer wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
There will be proper R6400V2 builds published this weekend.
Already fixed the detection and added a few improvements and currently testing it.


Can you give me a quick explanation what the different v2 firmwares mean in the desipro test folder ? What does the v2OTP version stand for ?


https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1139772#1139772


Thanks... lots of threads out there. Wow.
TXUSA
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 14:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
Muzeneer wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
There will be proper R6400V2 builds published this weekend.
Already fixed the detection and added a few improvements and currently testing it.


Can you give me a quick explanation what the different v2 firmwares mean in the desipro test folder ? What does the v2OTP version stand for ?


https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1139772#1139772


Someone who looks in the download folder and doesn’t know this thread might be confused. Unless it was added to a readme file.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 15:08    Post subject: Reply with quote
I will ask the moderators to link the install guide in the supported devices wiki.
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Install guide R7800/XR500: https://forum.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=320614
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TXUSA
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 17:49    Post subject: Reply with quote
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
If anyone has trouble getting the stock firmware to install again... you might have to load a hex editor and open the Netgear firmware and adjust the board ID to the one your router has... I haven’t checked lately but the one that Netgear posted as a download for the v2 actually was the same file as the v1 version (ID ending in 00, which did not work for my v2).


Already committed a change that accepts T00. I just checked netgear fw page an itseems like they use T00 for all of these models. Thus they have a unified fw for R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3. Does anyone have the boardid from the R6700v3 at hand?

This also meas, we do not need different chk files for the R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3, we just need to use T00 header for all of them.


Posted in a parallel forum... 6700v3 board ID U12H332T77_NETGEAR
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 20:43    Post subject: Reply with quote
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
If anyone has trouble getting the stock firmware to install again... you might have to load a hex editor and open the Netgear firmware and adjust the board ID to the one your router has... I haven’t checked lately but the one that Netgear posted as a download for the v2 actually was the same file as the v1 version (ID ending in 00, which did not work for my v2).


Already committed a change that accepts T00. I just checked netgear fw page an itseems like they use T00 for all of these models. Thus they have a unified fw for R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3. Does anyone have the boardid from the R6700v3 at hand?

This also meas, we do not need different chk files for the R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3, we just need to use T00 header for all of them.


Posted in a parallel forum... 6700v3 board ID U12H332T77_NETGEAR


Build will come shortly, just need someone brave to test:-)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:46    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, I couldn't refuse any opportunity to join in playing with the R6400V2. I was in the US on Friday and picked up a couple and a very good price at Best Buy ($90 US$) and moved two to DD-WRT (thanks again Kong!!!). All were the U12H332T30_NETGEAR version.

The two I did went smoothly, though I have always disliked Netgear's stupid auto config tool when you first start one up out of the box.

Now I just have to figure out what to do with them...lol

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TXUSA
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:04    Post subject: Reply with quote
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
If anyone has trouble getting the stock firmware to install again... you might have to load a hex editor and open the Netgear firmware and adjust the board ID to the one your router has... I haven’t checked lately but the one that Netgear posted as a download for the v2 actually was the same file as the v1 version (ID ending in 00, which did not work for my v2).


Already committed a change that accepts T00. I just checked netgear fw page an itseems like they use T00 for all of these models. Thus they have a unified fw for R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3. Does anyone have the boardid from the R6700v3 at hand?

This also meas, we do not need different chk files for the R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3, we just need to use T00 header for all of them.


Posted in a parallel forum... 6700v3 board ID U12H332T77_NETGEAR


Build will come shortly, just need someone brave to test:-)


Are we moving closer to an official release of the build ? Anyone knows ? The one in the test folder has been standing for a while now...
Xeon2k8
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:48    Post subject: Reply with quote
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
If anyone has trouble getting the stock firmware to install again... you might have to load a hex editor and open the Netgear firmware and adjust the board ID to the one your router has... I haven’t checked lately but the one that Netgear posted as a download for the v2 actually was the same file as the v1 version (ID ending in 00, which did not work for my v2).


Already committed a change that accepts T00. I just checked netgear fw page an itseems like they use T00 for all of these models. Thus they have a unified fw for R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3. Does anyone have the boardid from the R6700v3 at hand?

This also meas, we do not need different chk files for the R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3, we just need to use T00 header for all of them.


Posted in a parallel forum... 6700v3 board ID U12H332T77_NETGEAR


Build will come shortly, just need someone brave to test:-)


Are we moving closer to an official release of the build ? Anyone knows ? The one in the test folder has been standing for a while now...

What you mean by official? The detection fix will be in the next BS release if that's what you meant by official. Other than that all releases are beta.

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R7000 - BS 30771 running since 12/16/16 - (AP - NAS - FTP - SMB - OpenVPN Server - Transmission - DDNS - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 17:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
Xeon2k8 wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
<Kong> wrote:
TXUSA wrote:
If anyone has trouble getting the stock firmware to install again... you might have to load a hex editor and open the Netgear firmware and adjust the board ID to the one your router has... I haven’t checked lately but the one that Netgear posted as a download for the v2 actually was the same file as the v1 version (ID ending in 00, which did not work for my v2).


Already committed a change that accepts T00. I just checked netgear fw page an itseems like they use T00 for all of these models. Thus they have a unified fw for R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3. Does anyone have the boardid from the R6700v3 at hand?

This also meas, we do not need different chk files for the R6400v1/R6400v2/R6700v3, we just need to use T00 header for all of them.


Posted in a parallel forum... 6700v3 board ID U12H332T77_NETGEAR




Build will come shortly, just need someone brave to test:-)


Are we moving closer to an official release of the build ? Anyone knows ? The one in the test folder has been standing for a while now...

What you mean by official? The detection fix will be in the next BS release if that's what you meant by official. Other than that all releases are beta.


No, I am only referring to the Kong build.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 17:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can be weeks or months until the next "most stable" one.
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R7000 - BS 30771 running since 12/16/16 - (AP - NAS - FTP - SMB - OpenVPN Server - Transmission - DDNS - DNSMasq - AdBlocking - QoS)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 17:55    Post subject: Reply with quote
The (minor) differences between Kong's and BS's build are explained in the guide.
Both use the same repository (source code), so I would classify both as official.

I personally use Kong's, he tests his builds for the routers he supports and ddup for upgrading is great, but that is my personal preference.

At the moment you can only use Kong's TEST build because BS has not released a build after buildnumber 36820 (the build with support for all R6400v2) or after 36840 (support for R6700v3).
But if BS makes a new build available all users with R6400v2 and R6700v3 can also use that build

All builds are beta so check the build threads for problems before upgrading.
Beside a TEST build Kong keeps a regular build which he knows has been working on most routers he supports without a problem (But as explained not yet for the R6400v2 or R6700v3)

You can check the build threads for the 36820 and 36840 and there are no serious problems reported. So you should be good using 36840 (I am using it on R6400v2 and Linksys EA6900, but an a fairly default configuration, when I am back home I will do more testing )

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 13:31    Post subject: Reply with quote
Question: if `nvram show | grep boardid` returns the xxx20 version is it still safe to use BS builds?

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Btw: honestly if I knew Netgear did such nasty things (changing HW with the same model and making it so difficult for customers to know which version they have or are buying) I would've opted for something else I think. I mean... they don't have to support unofficial firmwares but they know they exist and IMHO it's not good for their image if they do such things. I think routers are still behind years and years (if compared with what happened with smartphones for instance) when it comes to aftermarket modifications and since it is such a crucial component of a network, I think it shouldn't be so. Thank God there are people and companies like NewMedia trying to make some things better.
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