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Frakko
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 15:42    Post subject: Choose the new router Reply with quote
I should switch to the optical fiber. I'm looking for a model that also has removable antennas and the wifi on / off button. Is there a model among those that support all the dd-wrt functions (vlans in particular) that can support optical fiber and that if necessary can I use it as a normal router Question
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 19:20    Post subject: Thread Reply with quote
Go through this thread, there is probably one that will work. I would suggest the Netgear R7800, it has VLAN tagging and is pretty well the fastest model that is dd-wrt compatible, at the moment at least. If you want full blown VLANs, then you need a broadcom based router. I don't know of a fast one. Netgear R8000 may be an option for broadcom based.
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Netgear R7800 x3 - WDS AP / station, gateway, QoS
TP-Link Archer C7 v2 x2 - WDS Station
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
TP-Link 841nd v8 - NU
D-Link 615 C1/E3/I1 x 7 - 1 WDS station
D-Link 825 B1 - NU
D-Link 862L A1 x2 - WDS Station
Netgear WNDR3700v2 - NU
UBNT loco M2 x2 - airOS

Broadcom
Linksys EA6400 - Gateway, QoS
Asus N66U - AP
Netgear WNDR3700v3 - not used
MediaTek
UBNT EdgeRouter X - switch
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:05    Post subject: Reply with quote
I asked in the broadcom forum, thanks again.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 13:29    Post subject: Reply with quote
R7800 is a good choice. It fully supports VLANs, inlike Broadcoms that are limited to 0-15.

You have to use a external Fiber to Ethernet Converter. The ISP will normally supply this.

The only router that have a slot for a Fiber Interface is the R9000
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 13:44    Post subject: Reply with quote
What do you think of the Tp-Link Archer C7 Question
Does it support Vlans and other DD-Wrt functions or does it have limitations Question
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https://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-9_Archer-C7.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 14:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
It has a too small flash size 16M.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:41    Post subject: Reply with quote
How much flash memory is needed in order to have the Vlan and all the functions of dd-wrt Question
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:09    Post subject: Reply with quote
Look at the file for R7800. It's between 20-30 Mbyte in size.

Read the build topics. You will find responses like "To big to flash" and features are missing.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 13:47    Post subject: Reply with quote
Okay. So to get all the features the R7800 is sure to have. What could be missing on the C7 archer Question The vlans, even if limited, are there into C7 Question
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 18:52    Post subject: Archer C7 Reply with quote
The Archer C7 only has VLAN tagging not full blown VLANs like in Broadcom.
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Atheros:
Netgear R7800 x3 - WDS AP / station, gateway, QoS
TP-Link Archer C7 v2 x2 - WDS Station
TP-Link TL-WDR3600 v1 - WDS Station
TP-Link 841nd v8 - NU
D-Link 615 C1/E3/I1 x 7 - 1 WDS station
D-Link 825 B1 - NU
D-Link 862L A1 x2 - WDS Station
Netgear WNDR3700v2 - NU
UBNT loco M2 x2 - airOS

Broadcom
Linksys EA6400 - Gateway, QoS
Asus N66U - AP
Netgear WNDR3700v3 - not used
MediaTek
UBNT EdgeRouter X - switch
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 23:16    Post subject: Reply with quote
Per Yngve Berg wrote:
R7800 is a good choice. It fully supports VLANs, inlike Broadcoms that are limited to 0-15.

You have to use a external Fiber to Ethernet Converter. The ISP will normally supply this.

The only router that have a slot for a Fiber Interface is the R9000


ARM based Broadcom VLANs aren't Limited to 0 to 15, read quarkysg posts....
https://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=312045

Quarkysg has his 880 D-Link that has a BCM4708A0 Switch with 4096 working VLANs using his linux-4.4-switch-robo.zip file.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 16:28    Post subject: Reply with quote
One of the features I have seen missing is tcpdump.

Most Atheros supports vlan, excepts the oldest chip models.

The case is, there is no 16M builds of dd-wrt. You have to use a 8M build with it's limitations.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 16:37    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would you please attach the configuration screens of your routers to better understand what is meant by normal VLAN tagging and VLANS Question
In particular, the tp-link, asus and netgear models.
Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2018 16:57    Post subject: Reply with quote
Netgear R7800 and Linksys EA8500:

http://mrjcd.com/EA8500_DD-WRT/vlans/
http://mrjcd.com/junk/dd-wrt/EA8500/r7800-EA8500_switch-ports.png

All Atheros based routers use the swconfig utility.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
In all cases does dd-wrt manage vlanes with this type of graphical interface or do I need to use the command line Question
https://smhttp-ssl-23575.nexcesscdn.net/80ABE1/sflashrouters/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/VLAN-howto-1-vlan-setup3.png
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