What is Noise Reference?

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KK
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:37    Post subject: What is Noise Reference? Reply with quote
In DD-WRT SP1, there is this Noise Reference at Wireless --> Advanced Settings with the default value of -98. Could someone tell me what is this please. I could not find any explaination in Wiki nor in the web GUI help. If I have -100 before SP1, does it mean I will lose 2db now if I leave it at -98?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:47    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's just a number for calculating SNR. Radio can't measure noise, so it need some reference value.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:38    Post subject: Reply with quote
What, it cannot measure noise?! That effecively mean that none of the values sayt anything anymore!

This may well mean that in a given situation, a signal of 30 is measured, but you also are in an environment that has background noise of 30dB, leaving you with no useable signal. Nevertheless ddwrt will say you have 30snr. Shocked Mad

Or is signal as measured always what has remained over any given noise?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:01    Post subject: Reply with quote
enter follow command:

wl noise

you'll see a value.
enter that value in Noise Reference and you can see SNR.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:17    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey that is great, thank you.

Could the value you get there not be taken by DDWRT for noise reference automatically?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:19    Post subject: Reply with quote
wl noise does not return right values in ap mode
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:20    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shocked Shocked

It says -37, can that be right?? Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:21    Post subject: Reply with quote
ro-maniak wrote:
Shocked Shocked

It says -37, can that be right?? Confused

hehe, but what if the signal is -80 then ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:22    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah, that post was not there when I hit submit, thanks.

That is right, I am in AP mode and that value cannot be true.

BS, am I correct in what I said before then, that the SNR is not real in any way, because you have no real noise measurement?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:25    Post subject: Reply with quote
right. thats why i introduced the noise reference. so you can choose out of your experience
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:32    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, but isn't -98 very, very low, a measurement you would only get in a very 'clean' radio environment, so that the SNR you will get when using this value is... "rather optimistic"??
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:50    Post subject: Reply with quote
If I do site survey and see few networks with noise value is that noise value valid for my AP location ?

Example:

net1 noise-94
net2 noise-94

Is that mean that noise around my AP is -94 dB ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 16:53    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey, that sounds only logical... is it, brainslayer?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 17:06    Post subject: Reply with quote
I got -100db with 7db antennas :P

And noise is hte other way around you got little noise when you got -98 to -94 but in more long distanse projects there will be more noise and interference. so in your situation you got little noise Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 17:35    Post subject: Reply with quote
wlan wrote:
If I do site survey and see few networks with noise value is that noise value valid for my AP location ?

Example:

net1 noise-94
net2 noise-94

Is that mean that noise around my AP is -94 dB ?


almost yes

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